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Confuse Hate and Dissent and You Will Find Hate Groups Everywhere

Did you know that Moms for Liberty is a hate group?  

At least that’s the view of the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), a far-left political organization, which is drawing scorn for labeling Moms for Liberty and other parental rights organizations as “extremist organizations,” including them on the same “hate map” as neo-Nazis and the Ku Klux Klan.

Like many SPLC critics, [Vivek] Ramaswamy dismissed the attack as “a farce.”

“The SPLC is a tentacle of the woke-industrial complex,” he told NHJournal. “I’m proud to be the first candidate to sign the Moms for Liberty Parent Pledge. Tomorrow [Thursday, June 8], I’ll be in New Hampshire hosting a Parents Rights Town Hall with my favorite ‘hate group’ (badge of honor).”

Here is what these domestic terrorists and insurrectionists look like. Call me naive, but they strike me as sweet, loving, and lovable suburban mommies who want what is good for their children and have a healthy sense of the difference between good and evil.

Just for fun check out this SPLC Hate Map. It includes a nifty search utility. Look up how much hate is in your state! Fun for the whole family. In Arizona in 2022 there were 39 hate groups, including a chapter of Moms for Liberty in Pima County. Yikes!

The SPLC calls these groups "anti-government groups." The SPLC-ers are the kind of people who think that being FOR limited government is being AGAINST government. 

Are you anti-government? I'm not. I'm anti-police state. Can you wrap your head around the difference? 

ComBox open. I want your opinion. Is the USA at the present time a police state? Dan Bongino says it is. Agree? Adduce evidence  for and against.

Addenda (6/9)

Dan Bongino: The Police State is here

"You have to understand what's going on," Bongino added. "The timing here is not accidental. Evidence came out today, hard evidence that the president of the United States, while he was Obama's vice president, was involved in the biggest political payoff in human history and a political scandal.

"This is all about making Trump go away and covering up for not just Biden, but covering up for Obama. Remember, Biden was the vice president. If he was paid a bribe for policy decisions, what policy decisions? He can't make them. He was Obama's vice president.

"Everything is about covering up for the Obama-Biden regime. That's all this is. The timing here is not accidental."

Rudy Giuliani: We're a 'Banana Republic,' 'Fascist'

"We have these allegations of massive bribes to Joe Biden," Giuliani said. "I mean, I've seen them. I know them. I've heard them. I've heard them on tape. To me, it's astounding. And the FBI has been investigating these for four years. And done nothing.

"Never did a search warrant. Never interviewed a witness, and now they're taking a document dispute, and trying to make it into a federal crime. I mean, there's no comparison between the $5 million bribe and a document dispute; the $31 million from China and the document dispute.

"It's ridiculous. I mean, we're a banana republic and a fascist country. If we do things like this and let them get away with it."

John Hinderaker: Trump Indictment Watch

The criminal prosecutions of Trump are thin if not entirely baseless, and they obviously are politically motivated. Nevertheless, they illustrate why Trump should not again be president.

Reader J.I.O comments and I basically agree:

No, Mr. Hinderaker. You are writing nonsense and I can prove it to anybody:
Turn all that you opine around and ask: "Do you want anyone so weak towards the heat in the kitchen, in the kitchen?" I sure don't.
 
Trump, no if's and's or but's, has the best and best enduring interests of the United States at heart, full speed ahead. And that's best for all the nations of this world as well.
 
Now let's examine a little more the track of 'candidates' along the lines you favor. They're thinking of that brass ring out there so they are NEVER focused on the task at hand. 
 
Hence you can count on two things, 1. their work is not their best, or, 2. they fob it off on someone else, so it's not really their work, they sit as a figure head, you know, that statue on the prow of an old sailing ship, a superstitious talisman. To sum up your favored candidates self-screening process: one finger in the wind, one eye looking backwards, the other eye looking WAY down the road at their all-along real goal.
 
Trump alone can turn things around. He has proven over four years that he can.  He cannot be bought. He is tough as nails and can withstand the withering hatred directed at him from all sides. He doesn't need the job. He is not a career politician. He can have at most one term in office. He loves his country, and, contrary to the brazen lies of the filthy Dems, he is moderate in his views. There is nothing extreme about them.
 
The question to put to well-meaning useful idiots like Hinderaker and so many other yap-and-scribble never-trumping pseudo-cons is: which side are you on, man?  Grow a pair and man up. Are you not embarrassed to be a lapdog of the Left?

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7 responses to “Confuse Hate and Dissent and You Will Find Hate Groups Everywhere”

  1. Anthony Flood Avatar

    To “answer” one question with another: would the distinction between latent and patent be relevant? At this hour, I’ll leave the fine distinction-making to you. We live in a latent police state, I conjecture, but not a patent one. By one contingency, the former can “fall over into” the latter; by another, that tragedy can be prevented. But we’re thisclose to crossing the point of no return into fascism. 

  2. Simon Neale Avatar
    Simon Neale

    I dislike it when someone is presumptuous enough to tell me what I think and feel. And, because hatred is often disreputable and shameful, I strongly dislike it when they tell me that I am a hater when I don’t in fact hate. If they persist, or I consider the accusation particularly egregious, I might even hate it. And from there, it’s but a short step to hating them for doing it.
    In fact, if I came to believe that all blacks and gays thought that I hated them, I could be happily racist and homophobic. Which might actually be the whole point of the activists’ game.

  3. BV Avatar
    BV

    >>Which might actually be the whole point of the activists’ game.<< It might be. It is important not to overreact to our political enemies. Part of their game is indeed to provoke us so that we overreact; they can then justify their fascist clamp-down by citing our overreaction and 'extremism,' which is becoming one of their favorite smear-words. Speak out but stay calm. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. Prepare quietly.

  4. BV Avatar
    BV

    Tony,
    The latent-patent distinction is relevant. The USA is not now a full-blown police state. But our becoming one is not a mere possibility, nor is it an unrealized potentiality. It is a potentiality being actualized more and more with each passing day. Yesterday, for example, Trump was indicted on bogus charges. It is clear that the Biden DOJ/FBI/CIA are out to crush him. They will assassinate him if they have to. They have proven willing and able to do such things. A NYC police commissioner on NEWSMAX last night said as much. They will do everything they can to stop him because he alone can keep us from the point of no return. He is formidabler because he doesn’t need the job.He can’ty be bought. DeSantis, as good as he is, is a career politician; he needs the job. He is compromised by that fact.

  5. BV Avatar
    BV

    It is important to realize that if the USA falls to fascism there will be no place left to go. Dietrich von Hildebrand, hounded by the Nazis, escaped to NYC where he taught Fordham. The rest of the Anglosdphere is a joke. So the USA is the last best hope for humanity, but it is a hope becoming increasingly hopeless.
    I bid you all a good day. I am heading out into nature, into the apolitical, on my mountain bike.
    Don’t become obsessed with this political dreck. But do your bit day by day.
    Just as Rome was not built in a day, it did not fall in a day. There is still time for some of us to live as free men and women. Be of good cheer. Do your bit. There are a lot of us. Seek out the like-minded. Long live the Republic!

  6. Whitewall Avatar
    Whitewall

    Moms for Liberty a ‘hate group’? meaning anti-government. I know it is not a perfect fit but it has seemed to me since the 1960s that the ‘hate’ on the right is anti government while ‘hate’ on the left seems anti America.
    As for DJT, he is the only man who will step into the arena naked with a sword in front of a packed coliseum and do battle with the enemy. I fear he is going to be cut down one way or another in order to deprive decent people of a champion. In preparation, we the people need to organize locally and fight locally, win locally and expect every counter attack so we can return the favor. The Dem barbarians have spent decades in secret marching through our institutions. They will have to be marched out backward one step at a time.

  7. BV Avatar
    BV

    Right, Whitewall. But I’d put it a little differently. The conservative sentiment is: I love my country but I fear my government. That fear is rational; it is not a phobia. But yes, our enemies are hate=America leftists. To be precise, they hate America as she was founded to be. They hate the idea of a constitutionally-ordered republic with enumerated and limited powers.
    I share the fear you express in your second paragraph. If they cannot stop DJT with their ‘lawfare,’ they will attempt to have him assassinated.

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