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Notes on R. C. Sproul, Does God Exist? Part II

Part I is here. Sproul thinks he can prove that the God of the Christian Bible exists from reason alone.  By 'prove' he means establish with objective certainty. 

He begins by listing four possible explanations of reality as we encounter it.  I take him to mean by 'reality' the world as given to the senses.

1) Reality is an illusion.
2) Reality creates itself.
3) Reality is self-existent.
4) Reality is created by something distinct from it that is self-existent, God.

Sproul considers these the only four possibilities. His strategy is to refute the first three, thereby establishing (4). Pressed for time, I will be brief.  I will simply dismiss (1) as beneath refutation.

As for (2), nothing can create itself, if 'x creates x' means x causes x to exist. Why not? Well, for anything to do any causing it must already exist.  'Already' can be taken either logically or temporally or both. But nothing is or can be either temporally or logically prior to itself.  It is therefore impossible that anything create itself.  It is a necessarily true law of metaphysica generalis that nothing can create itself.  

But isn't God classically characterized as causa sui? He is indeed. But what that means is not that he causes himself to exist, but that he is not caused by another to exist. As I like to put it, the sense of causa sui is privative, not positive. It is built into the very concept God that God would not be God if he were caused by another to exist; that is not to say, however, that he causes himself to exist. To say that God is causa sui is equivalent to saying that he exists of metaphysical necessity.

By the way, don't confuse the concept God with God. That would be like confusing the concept chair with what you are presumably now sitting on.  Are you sitting on a concept?

As for (3), this pantheistic possibility is worth consideration, but I must move on. The idea is that Reality does not cause itself to exist, nor does it just happen to exist; it necessarily exists.

Sproul affirms (4) and he thinks he can prove it beyond the shadow of a doubt. By 'reality,' he means "reality as we encounter it." (p. 9)  That includes mainly, if not wholly, the people and things disclosed by inner and outer sense experience.  

But are those four the only (epistemic) possibilities? Why couldn't the reality we encounter just exist as a factum brutum, a brute fact?  By 'brute fact' I mean an obtaining or existing state of affairs that exists without cause or reason.  

Sproul needs to explain why the cosmos, physical world, nature cannot just exist. Why must it have an efficient cause or a reason/purpose (final cause)?  Why can't its existence  be a brute fact?  That is a (fifth) epistemic possibility he does not, as far as I can see, consider.


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7 responses to “Notes on R. C. Sproul, Does God Exist? Part II”

  1. Vito B. Caiati Avatar
    Vito B. Caiati

    Bill,
    As an amateur in these matters, I have two questions:
    Does (5) the existence of “reality” as a brute fact imply an infinite regress, and if not, why not?
    What does the acceptance of (5) imply for the principle of sufficient reason?
    Vito

  2. EG Avatar
    EG

    Hi Bill,
    Do you think there is a such thing as spontaneous self-generation/self-creation? And perhaps tangentially but related, what is “creation,” what is that “power”?

  3. Anthony Flood Avatar

    Bill, as you may know, I first encountered the notion of “brute fact” in Bernard Lonergan’s Insight. There couldn’t be a brute fact, he held, because being is completely intelligible . . . and therefore, God exists! (Okay, there are about two dozen steps in between.) I’ve argued elsewhere (here https://anthonygflood.com///2018/11/bernard-lonergans-insight-on-becoming-an-intellectually-fulfilled-theist/ and here https://anthonygflood.com/2018/12/bernard-lonergan-had-it-backwards-august-hopkins-strong-about-right/) that Lonergan had it backwards: there are no brute facts (for God or anyone else) because God exists. Unless you presuppose God (i.e., Yahweh, who “wired” you to do that, whether or not you unrighteously suppress that gift of knowledge), you don’t have a context in which anything makes sense—and that includes inquiries into God’s existence and the rational exigency informing your critical questioning of Sproul. I would tell Lonergan (I figured this out long after he died in 1984, the year after I met him) that he would have no grounds for affirming that “being is completely intelligible” unless you’re God or are in receipt of knowledge from God. There are no brute facts for us because there are none for God. We can’t purchase that truth—that premise—without acknowledging God as the first truth. The inquiry called philosophical theology doesn’t sensibly get started on the presumption (however defeasible) of atheism.

  4. Michael Brazier Avatar
    Michael Brazier

    If there is a brute fact anywhere, PSR is false, for PSR says there is an explanation for everything.
    To answer the question: the cosmos is not a brute fact because, when seriously examined, it does prove to be intelligible. A brute fact couldn’t be expected to exhibit the deep structure within itself that we actually do find in the cosmos. Therefore, to suppose the cosmos has no explanation, one must explain away the regularity and intelligibility within the cosmos that we’ve already found as a mere illusion or fortunate coincidence.

  5. trudy vandermolen Avatar
    trudy vandermolen

    Brute force seems to me to be tied into #2 and #3. How did brute force start and why is it even there? It can’t answer either of those questions. Sproul answered how and why with his #4.

  6. trudy vandermolen Avatar
    trudy vandermolen

    There’s no answer anyone can give to # 5, because it basically says, “don’t ask any questions, just accept it.” It’s a blind faith. No evidence or argument is required.
    As Justice Cassel said, “Evidence is anything that makes a fact in issue more (or less) likely.” Evidence does not mean undeniable truth that proves a point beyond any reasonable doubt, but something that makes it more likely or not.
    The evidence Sproul provides makes the existence of God likely.

  7. trudy vandermolen Avatar
    trudy vandermolen

    The argument for brute force is the cry of one who throws up his hands in despair saying, “ I don’t know, and I don’t want to decide. I especially do not want to decide for position #4 because of what that would mean for my life.”
    Brute force = avoidance of decision or maybe a belief in magic.

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