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J. D. Vance at the National Catholic Prayer Breakfast

The Veep's performance was impressive. The man has excellent public speaking skills, is considerably more articulate than his boss, and displays natural political talent. He will make a fine successor.  On the down side, he, unlike Trump, is a professional politician. I don't have to explain what that means. Trump's astonishing effectiveness is in large part due to the fact that the man does not need the job and can't be bought. The same goes for his right-hand man, Elon Musk. Contrary to the filthy slandering of him by our political enemies, he is not in this for the money.  (As if to mock these moral and intellectual incompetents, Elon has given new life to the Hitler salute by introducing the chainsaw variant. I call it 'blue-baiting.')

Vance was right to point out the blow Trump has struck for religious liberty for all faiths. He didn't mention  Executive Order 14182 of 25 January, but I will. Enforcing the Hyde Amendment is an effective counterpunch against the corrupt and self-serving Joe Biden who, you will recall, reversed himself on his quondam support for the amendment:

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered:

Section 1 . Purpose and Policy. For nearly five decades, the Congress has annually enacted the Hyde Amendment and similar laws that prevent Federal funding of elective abortion, reflecting a longstanding consensus that American taxpayers should not be forced to pay for that practice. However, the previous administration disregarded this established, commonsense policy by embedding forced taxpayer funding of elective abortions in a wide variety of Federal programs.

It is the policy of the United States, consistent with the Hyde Amendment, to end the forced use of Federal taxpayer dollars to fund or promote elective abortion.

Now unless you are morally obtuse, or a Democrat (whichever comes first), you should be able to see right away that it is wrong for the federal government to force roughly half  the taxpayers to support what they consider to be a moral outrage. It is wrong even if abortion right up to the moment of birth ought to be legal. I am not saying that it ought to be legal. I am saying that, even if it ought to be legal, and becomes legal, it would be wrong to compel taxpayers to pay for it.  For that compulsion violates their conscience and moral judgment, a judgment that has the support of a battery of powerful arguments. (That the average Joe and Jane lack the intellectual 'chops' to produce these arguments, arguments which, by the way, needn't rely on any specifically religious premises,  is not to the point; some of us can. Do you remember that RINO mediocrity George W. Bush? He would often say, in his flat-footed way, that "Marriage is between a man and a woman." He was right, but that's all he could muster: he lacked the mental equipment to defend his position in an articulate manner. He reminded me of the affable jocks I'd have in my logic classes. In this respect Bush was like too many conservatives. They have sound intuitions but cannot rise to their argumentative defense.) 

In roughly the second half of his speech, Vice President Vance became repetitive, and what is worse, 'squishy' in the style of the 'liberal,' in his positive statements about the current pope.  It is too bad that the man is dying, and perhaps we should pray for the man. But should we pray that his papacy continue? That is not obvious. I'd say it is the exact opposite of obvious.  I don't believe I am very far off if I say that Bergoglio is to the RCC what Biden was to the USA, a disaster.  

It follows that if you pray for the man, you should not pray that he continue to live. For if he continues to live, his destructive papacy will continue. His papacy ought to end, which is not to say that the papacy ought to end.  You should pray that Bergoglio get his spiritual affairs in order, admit the damage he has done, confess his sins of omission and commission, and ask for forgiveness, lest he end up in hell, or in purgatory for a hell of a long time.

Here is the Veep's speech.


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10 responses to “J. D. Vance at the National Catholic Prayer Breakfast”

  1. Vito B. Caiati Avatar
    Vito B. Caiati

    Bill,
    I too do not understand the prayers for Bergoglio’s recovery offered all over X this week by orthodox or not-so-orthodox Catholics. As you write, the only rational response is to “pray that Bergoglio get his spiritual affairs in order, admit the damage he has done, and ask for forgiveness.” And this is precisely what I have been praying for since he fell ill. Strange that so many think that a proper Catholic response is to pray that a very old, very sick man who is determined to destroy the Deposit of Faith be given more time to carry out this goal.
    Vito

  2. BV Avatar
    BV

    Vito,
    I am glad you agree with me on this, and I expected you would, although what I wrote will probably strike most as heartless. And herein lies an explanation for “the prayers for Bergoglio’s recovery offered all over X this week by orthodox or not-so-orthodox Catholics.” These Catholics don’t want to be perceived as heartless or uncaring or lacking compassion. And so, being conformists who want to be accepted as caring, etc., they ‘second’ the prevailing emotion.
    An orthodox Catholic who understands what the trad RCC stands for, and who is not in the grip of his emotions, could not possibly hope for or pray for Francis’s recovery.

  3. Vito B. Caiati Avatar
    Vito B. Caiati

    Bill,
    I remember my paternal mother, Anna, an unschooled simple woman, always dressed in black, who came from the small town of Bitonto, near Bari in Apulia. She was a extraordinarily pious Catholic of the old school, who attended two Masses a day and always sat in the same chair with a rosary in her hand. Her one wish, for which she prayed every day, was not to live the longest life possible but rather to know the time of her death so that she could make a confession and receive the last rites. She was confined to bed the last six months of her life. But one morning, she told her daughters to go and call a priest, for she said that she had received news from some saint–I forget which one–that she was going to die that day. She insisted on being dressed, was led to her chair, and received the priest, who performed his sacramental duties. He left and she died. This is the way that an old, sickly Catholic woman looked at life and death in the before the faith was feminized, if you will; so I find nothing “heartless” in your comment.
    Vito

  4. Vito B. Caiati Avatar
    Vito B. Caiati

    Bill,
    One final comment: Turning from the story of a good woman to someone like Bergoglio who is up to no good, one might consider the opinion of the Jesuit moral theologian Fr. Henry Davis (1866-1952), who writes: “[I]t is lawful to desire some misfortune to befall another not as his misfortune but that he may be corrected or converted to God; or to desire the death of another in innocence rather than that he should live a bad life or die in sin; or to wish for the death of one who is doing great public harm — but not for his death as an evil to him but that harm may cease. Similarly, it is lawful to desire the death, but not as another’s evil, of one who is likely to compass my death or that of another innocent person or what is equivalent to death, such as dishonour and persistent grave injury; or to desire the retribution of death to be inflicted as a just punishment on a criminal. In all these examples the order of charity is maintained, for the higher good may always be preferred to what is lower, and to wish the higher good is not necessarily to wish evil” (Moral and Pastoral Theology, I, 229-30*).
    Vito
    *https://www.amazon.com/Moral-Pastoral-Theology-V1-Virtue/dp/1163177873

  5. Dmitri Avatar
    Dmitri

    Gentlemen
    It would be interesting to hear your opinions on the movie “Conclave” currently playing on Netflix. The acting is mostly good given the cast, but I’m interested to hear whether Catholics think that the movie represents the Church and its mighty internal politics in a way that resonates with your understanding of what is going on there.
    The struggle of the progressive and conservative wings of the Church, racial tensions among some of the cardinals, the eaten by doubts Lawrence (played by Ralph Fiennes) and, finally a “nomination win” (no not the projected Oscar for Fiennes) by an unaffiliated and unknown cardinal who represents the genuinely believing and correspondingly behaving Christian leader — the movie should be of some interest to you if you have not watched it yet.
    @Vito: the story of Anna is touching. It looks like this type of a devoted believer is completely gone in the developed West.

  6. BV Avatar
    BV

    Dmitri,
    When I first became aware of the movie “Conclave,” I had the impression that it was an anti-Catholic ‘hit piece.’ So I had no interest in seeing it. And now, having read Bishop Robert Barron’s review, I will most assuredly not waste time or money on it.
    https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/260263/bishop-robert-barron-on-conclave-movie-run-away-from-it-as-fast-as-you-can
    I don’t believe Fr Barron could be accused of being a hard-line conservative. He is, by the way, a big-time Dylan fan and sees the Biblical side of Dylan.
    I heard that Russia has lost 900,000 soldiers in the three years of the Ukraine war. Could that figure be right?

  7. BV Avatar
    BV

    Vito,
    Your comment/quotation @4:03 well expresses the distinction I had in mind.
    >>Similarly, it is lawful to desire the death, but not as another’s evil, of one who is likely to compass my death or that of another innocent person or what is equivalent to death . . .<< There is a fairly close analogy here to the doctrine of double effect. A man kicks down my door and points a gun at me. Facing a lethal threat, I respond with deadly force, killing him. In the eyes of the law, the burden is now on me to prove that my killing the man was justified. I am in the dock. The Soros-funded prosecutor is a shyster out to make a name for himself. He tries to trip me up. He says, "Did you shoot to kill?" But I know that he is trying to trap me, so I say, "No sir! I did not shoot to kill; I did not intend to kill the assailant, I feared for my life and the life of my wife. I shot to stop a deadly threat." Similarly in the case of the dying pope. I do not pray that he die; I pray that the deadly threat that he poses to the RCC cease. In the shooting case, the probability of the assailant's dying from being shot center-mass with double-aught buckshot is near 1. No matter. I did not intend to kill him, but only to stop him. This is not sophistry but sound moral reasoning. A point of disanalogy with the Bergoglio case is that I do not do anything, or leave anything undone, to hasten the man's death, I merely pray that his evil-doing cease.

  8. BV Avatar
    BV

    It is worth bearing in mind that there is no such thing as a perfect analogy. A perfect analogy would be an identity, and you cannot usefully compare a thing to itself. The zero-case of comparison is not comparison. ‘Zero-case’ an alienans adjective.
    Every analogy brings with it disanalogies. The closer the analogy, the fewer the disanalogies. But there will always be some. This is why analogical reasoning is not rationally coercive and is useless if you are trying to change the mind of a resolute & recalcitrant opponent. He will simply seize upon one or more of the inevitable points of disanalogy.

  9. Dmitri Avatar
    Dmitri

    Thanks for the link to the review. I had a feeling that the movie is not going to be received well by the Catholic church. As an observer, I can say that Conclave does not appear to me as a trivial hit piece. It has elements of hope and positivity for the Church. Even the genetic indeterminacy surrounding the eventual choice of Pope — whose appearance in the movie is not feminine but of a South American male — is not presented in a hostile or challenging way.
    Re losses in the war — I am hearing all kinds of numbers thrown around. We won’t know until after the war is over. But Russia is historically known for sacrificing many of its people in wars to serve the higher cause as it is defined by the ruling class or leader. So I tend to believe that hundreds of thousands dead in 3 years is a solid estimate.

  10. Vito B. Caiati Avatar
    Vito B. Caiati

    Dimitri,
    Like Bill, I read Bishop Barron’s review and shunned the film.
    I am glad that you appreciated the story of my paternal grandmother.
    Vito

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