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Back to Kant! The Aporetics of Appearance

Ed Buckner writes and I respond in blue:

1) The expression “this table” refers to something, i.e. has a referent.

BV: Yes.

2) What it refers to is extended in space and persists through time.

BV: No doubt. (1) and (2) are 'datanic claims' in my terminology. They simply must be accommodated by any theory worth its salt.

A Kantian will sum up (1) and (2) by saying that 'this table' refers to something empirically real. 'Empirically' means via the senses. To say that the table is empirically real is to say that it exists independently of any particular perceiver such as Ed and his mental states, and is given via the outer senses (sight, touch, etc.).  It follows, of course, that the table is not an object of inner sense. For if it were an object of inner sense, it could not be in space. Ed's perceivings, which he can become aware of by inner sense, are in time, but not in space. Because the table is in space, it is not in Ed's mind, i.e., it is not one of his mental states.

3) Kant claims that a thing in itself is not extended in space and does not persist through time.

BV: Kant does indeed say that, but what does it mean? On one interpretation, what Kant means by the above claim is that a thing such as a table, when considered as a thing in itself, and thus not as it appears to us under the epistemic conditions under which alone it can appear to us, is not extended in space and does not appear in time.

On this interpretation, promoted by such noted Kant scholars as Gerold Prauss and Henry Allison, there are not two tables, a phenomenal table and a noumenal table; there is one table considered in two ways. Phenomena and things in themselves are not two types of thing, but two different ways of considering the same things. It is not as if, 'behind' the phenomenal table, there is a 'table in itself': there is only one table  viewed either from the human (finite) point of view or from the absolute point of view of an intellectus archetypus.

One advantage of this interpretation is that it allows the accommodation of  Kant's repeated insistent claim that he is not a Berkeleyan idealist. For Berkeley, spatial things such as tables are in the mind. For Kant, they are not in the mind, for the following reason. What is in the mind is accessible to inner sense, but not to outer sense. Tables and such, however, are accessible only to outer sense. So tables and spatial things generally are not in the mind. They are in space outside the mind.  It must be understood, of course, that for Kant space is a mere a priori form of our sensibility, and thus one of the epistemic conditions above mentioned.

4) Therefore what “this table” refers to is not a thing in  itself.

BV: The validity of the inference is questionable. On the above interpretation, what "this table" refers to is not a thing as it would be when considered apart from the epistemic conditions under which alone it can appear to us. It refers to a thing under the epistemic conditions under which alone it can appear to us. It could therefore be said that what "this table" refers to is indeed that table itself, albeit under the epistemic conditions under which alone it can appear to us.  These conditions include space and time, the a priori conditions of our sensibility (Sinnlichkeit), and the categories, the a priori forms of our understanding (Verstand).

I cannot fault these. In which case, what does “this table” refer to, for a Kantian?

BV: "This table," in line with the above interpretation, refers to a table under the epistemic conditions (space, time, and categories) under which alone it can appear to us. It thus refers to a phenomenon or appearance (Erscheinung). But this phenomenon is not a private mental content of a particular perceiver.  It is an intersubjectively accessible thing, the table in our example.  

So, from a Kantian point of view, 'this table' refers to a table which to employ a signature Kantian phrase, is "empirically real but transcendentally ideal." 

Pace Ed Buckner, and other English commentators, Kant is not a Berkeleyan idealist. This is not to say that that Kant's transcendental idealism is in the the clear. It remains problematic for reasons we cannot go into now.


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3 responses to “Back to Kant! The Aporetics of Appearance”

  1. oz the ostrich Avatar
    oz the ostrich

    Thanks for the lengthy and considered reply. It confirms the approach I am taking in my current work is the right one. You say “… a table, when considered as a thing in itself, and thus not as it appears to us under the epistemic conditions under which alone it can appear to us, is not extended in space and does not appear in time.”
    Note the terms ‘considered as’ and ‘as’. In the scholastic literature these are called ‘reduplications’, but scholastics like Ockham agree, as Prichard states in his magisterial 1909 study of the Critique, that the reduplication cannot take back the meaning of the word ‘is’.

    the assertion that something is so and so to us as perceiving, though not in itself, is a contradiction in terms. The phrase ‘to us as perceiving’, as a restriction upon the word ‘is’, merely takes back the precise meaning of the word ‘is’. (p.72, my emphasis)

    And even the ‘one world’ interpreters agree that many passages in Kant present considerable difficulties for their approach.

  2. oz the ostrich Avatar
    oz the ostrich

    On the notion of ‘outer sense’, Kant misunderstands Berkeley (assuming he ever read Berkeley properly, which many scholars doubt. The good bishop says:

    XLIII. But for the fuller clearing of this Point, it may be worth while to consider, how it is that we perceive Distance and Things placed at a Distance by Sight. For that we should in truth see external Space, and Bodies actually existing in it, some nearer, others farther off, seems to carry with it some Opposition to what hath been said, of their existing no where without the Mind. The Consideration of this Difficulty it was, that gave birth to my Essay towards a new Theory of Vision, which was published not long since. Wherein it is shewn that Distance or Outness is neither immediately of it self perceived by Sight, nor yet apprehended or judged of by Lines and Angles, or any thing that hath a necessary Connexion with it: But that it is only suggested to our Thoughts, by certain visible Ideas and Sensations attending Vision, which in their own Nature have no manner of Similitude or Relation, either with Distance, or Things placed at a Distance. But by a Connexion taught us by Experience, they come to signify and suggest them to us, after the same manner that Words of any Language suggest the Ideas they are made to stand for. Insomuch that a Man born blind, and afterwards made to see, would not, at first Sight, think the Things he saw, to be without his Mind, or at any Distance from him. See Sect. 41. of the forementioned Treatise.

  3. EG Avatar
    EG

    Bill writes:
    “Ed’s perceivings, which he can become aware of by inner sense, are in time, but not in space.”
    Can you unpack this?
    Some quick thoughts: the perceivings are ostensibly not a thing (spatially–and I set aside whether there is some neuro-physical correlate), they “exist” both because they were “perceived” by Ed (there is also the distracting question of mistaken impression or could this perceiving be mistaken, and whether or not this is tied to lack of existence in Space), and they are now a stipulated “inner-object” to make the preceding sentence make sense. Yet you say they exist in Time. Are you making a case for “layers” of Space (outer [IRL] and inner [thoughts/perceivings]) but not Time. Can you say more about its temporal existence?
    As an aside: I feel like we need an aside to talk about Consciousness and its implications for how we can, or perhaps more accurately forced to, talk about metaphysics, our perceptions and the proper way to understand them, etc. Perhaps this is related to oz’s preceding comment.

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