{"id":9980,"date":"2012-01-29T12:51:29","date_gmt":"2012-01-29T12:51:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2012\/01\/29\/creatio-ex-deo-and-pantheism\/"},"modified":"2012-01-29T12:51:29","modified_gmt":"2012-01-29T12:51:29","slug":"creatio-ex-deo-and-pantheism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2012\/01\/29\/creatio-ex-deo-and-pantheism\/","title":{"rendered":"<i>Creatio ex Deo<\/i> and Pantheism"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">The following post draws mainly upon Robert Oakes, &quot;Does Traditional Theism Entail Pantheism?&quot; <em>American Philosophical Quarterly<\/em>, vol. 20, no. 1 (January 1983), pp. 105-112. Reprinted in Tom Morris, ed. <em>The Concept of God<\/em> (Oxford U. Press, 1987).&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">The question arises:&#0160; &#0160;Does <a href=\"http:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/maverick_philosopher\/2012\/01\/creation-ex-nihilo-or-ex-deo-am-i-a-panentheist.html\" target=\"_self\">my construal<\/a> of <em>creatio ex nihilo<\/em> in terms of <em>creatio ex Deo<\/em> commit me to pantheism? If so, how does that comport with my avowed onto-theological personalism? I will try toshow that my construal does not commit me to pantheism, or at least not to the pantheism that Oakes seems to embrace.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">The logically first question concerns just what pantheism is and is not. I\u2019ll begin with what it is not. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">A. Pantheism worth discussing is not the view that God (G) is identical to the physical universe (U). For that would amount to saying that God does not exist. Whether or not God exists, the divine nature excludes the possibility of God\u2019s being a system of physical objects. The reduction of G to U thus amounts to the elimination of G. Therefore, the use of \u2018God\u2019 to refer to U is simply an egregious misuse of the term \u2018God,\u2019 a misuse on a par with Tillich\u2019s misuse of \u2018God\u2019 to refer to one\u2019s ultimate concern. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">B. What of the opposite reduction of U to G? This is also a type of pantheism not worth discussing: it implies that God exists but the physical universe does not. For it is self-evident that the physical universe cannot exist unless it is in some sense distinct from G. After all, G is immutable whereas U is mutable; hence, by what McTaggart calls the Discernibility of the Diverse (the logical contrapositive of the Indiscernibility of Identicals), U cannot be identical to G if both exist. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">C. If pantheism is to be worth discussing, it must somehow allow for a difference of some kind between God and the cosmos. It must steer a middle course between a strict identity of G and U and a type of difference that would render them \u2018indifferent\u2019 to each other, i.e., a type of radical difference that would allow the possibility of U existing without G existing. A viable pantheism must therefore avoid three positions: (1) God is world-identical; (2) The world is God-identical; (3) God and the world are externally related in the sense that either could exist without the other. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">One way to satisfy these requirements is by saying, Spinozistically, that created entities are modes of God, or as Oakes says, &quot;aspects or modifications&quot; of God. (p. 106 <em>et passim<\/em>) For if x is a mode (aspect, modification) of y, then x is not identical to y, y is not identical to x, and x and y are not merely externally related. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">It is important to realize that classical theism must also satisfy the requirements, (1)-(3). In particular, classical theism must deny that U can exist without G. For it is a central tenet of classical theism that God is not merely a cause of the inception of the universe, but a cause of its continuance as well. God is not merely a deistic &#39;starter-upper,&#39; but a moment by moment conserver. How exactly <em>creatio originans<\/em> and <em>creatio continuans<\/em> fit together involves problems&#0160;that cannot be discussed in this post.&#0160; (Cf.&#0160;William F. Vallicella&#0160;(2002), <a href=\"http:\/\/journals.cambridge.org\/action\/displayFulltext?type=1&amp;fid=108690&amp;jid=RES&amp;volumeId=38&amp;issueId=02&amp;aid=108689\" target=\"_self\">The Creation\u2013Conservation Dilemma and Presentist Four-Dimensionalism<\/a>, <em>Religious Studies<\/em> 38 (2):187-200.)&#0160;&#0160;But there can be no doubt that for classical theism as it is found in Aquinas, Descartes, Leibniz, Berkeley and others, creation in the full sense involves both notions, both originating creation and continuing creation.&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Now given the fact just mentioned, how are we to distinguish classical theism (CT) from pantheism in the (C)-sense, the only sense in play here? Does (CT) perhaps entail pantheism? (To say that p entails q is to say that, necessarily, if p is true, then q is true. Equivalently, it is to say that it is impossible that p be true, and q false.) <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">You will notice that the doctrine of conservation \u2018shortens\u2019 the \u2018ontological distance\u2019 between creator and creatures. It implies that at each moment divine activity is required to keep the creature from lapsing into nonbeing. The point is not merely that God as a contingent matter of fact conserves creatures moment by moment, but that creatures are <em>necessarily such<\/em> that they are conserved moment by moment by divine activity. This suggests that the very being of creatures is their being-conserved moment by moment, which in turn gives rise to the following worry: How then can creatures retain any ontological independence? <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Drawing on Oakes, the following Argument from Conservation can be mounted for the thesis that classical theism entails pantheism (but of course not pantheism in the absurd (A) or (B) senses). (The argument is in Oakes, but the reconstruction is mine.) <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">1. Every contingent being is necessarily such that it is existentially dependent on God at each moment of its existence. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">2. If anything X is necessarily such that it is dependent on something Y at each moment of its existence, then X is a mode (aspect, modification) of Y. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Therefore <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">3. Every contingent being is a mode (aspect, modification) of God, which amounts to pantheism. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">The validity (formal correctness) of this argument is not in question, and premise (1) merely states the conservation doctrine, an essential subdoctrine of classical theism. So the soundness of the argument rides on premise (2). <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Premise (2) fits some cases very well. A wrinkle in a carpet satisfies both the antecedent and the consequent of (2). Same holds for the dance and the dancer. Suppose Little Eva is doing the Locomotion (&quot;C\u2019mon baby, do the Lo-co-mo-shun . . ..) There is the dance-type and its various actual and possible tokens. Little Eva\u2019s gyrations at time t constitute one of these tokens such that the token in question could not possibly exist except as an aspect or modification of Little Eva at t. Similarly for felt pleasures and felt pains. The <em>esse<\/em> of a pain just is its <em>percipi<\/em>: a pain cannot exist except as perceived. Pains and the like are therefore plausibly construed as aspects or modifications of perceivers. Finally, it is plausibly maintained that a particular thinking, believing, imagining, is an aspect or modification of a thinker or a believer or an imaginer. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">But now consider an object imagined as opposed to the act of imagining it. I mean an object that does not exist apart from its being imagined, a purely intentional object. (A rich vein of gold at the base of Weaver\u2019s Needle; a one-eyed, one-horned, flying purple people eater.) Said object does not exist on i<br \/>\nts own, but only as the accusative of an act (or acts) of imagining. Now while it makes sense to say that the act (the occurrent episode) of imagining is an aspect or modification of an imaginer, it does not make much sense to say this of the intentional object (the accusative) of the act. Indeed, we cannot even say that the intentional object is an aspect or modification of the act trained upon it. Why not? <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Note that if x is an aspect or modification of y, then x cannot exist without y, but y can exist without x. (A carpet wrinkle cannot exist without the carpet of which it is the wrinkle, but the carpet can surely exist without that, or any, wrinkle.) By contrast, if x is the intentional object of act y, then x cannot exist without y, AND y cannot exist without x. An imagining cannot exist except as the imagining of a definite object, and that object, qua intentional object, cannot exist without the act. I conclude from this difference that the intentional object cannot be an aspect or modification of the act. It is not a property of the act, but its object or intentum. <em>A fortiori<\/em>, it cannot be an aspect or modification of the subject of the act, the imaginer in the case of an act of imagining. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">We therefore have a class of counterexamples to premise (2) above. The Argument from Conservation therefore fails, and classical theism does not collapse into pantheism \u2013 or at least not for the reason that Oakes provided in the article under discussion. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">So far, then, I cannot see that I am committed to pantheism in any of the three senses lately distinguished by my construal of <em>creatio ex nihilo<\/em>&#0160; as <em>creatio ex Deo<\/em>.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The following post draws mainly upon Robert Oakes, &quot;Does Traditional Theism Entail Pantheism?&quot; American Philosophical Quarterly, vol. 20, no. 1 (January 1983), pp. 105-112. Reprinted in Tom Morris, ed. The Concept of God (Oxford U. Press, 1987).&#0160; The question arises:&#0160; &#0160;Does my construal of creatio ex nihilo in terms of creatio ex Deo commit me &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2012\/01\/29\/creatio-ex-deo-and-pantheism\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;<i>Creatio ex Deo<\/i> and Pantheism&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[143,669],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-9980","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-god","category-panentheism"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9980","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=9980"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9980\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=9980"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=9980"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=9980"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}