{"id":9721,"date":"2012-05-08T15:56:19","date_gmt":"2012-05-08T15:56:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2012\/05\/08\/wittgenstein-and-rejectionism\/"},"modified":"2012-05-08T15:56:19","modified_gmt":"2012-05-08T15:56:19","slug":"wittgenstein-and-rejectionism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2012\/05\/08\/wittgenstein-and-rejectionism\/","title":{"rendered":"Wittgenstein and Rejectionism"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">I <a href=\"http:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/maverick_philosopher\/2012\/05\/catalog-of-possible-responses-to-why-is-there-anything-at-all.html\" target=\"_self\">characterized<\/a> Rejectionism with respect to the question why there is anything at all as follows:&#0160; &quot;The rejectionist rejects the question as ill-formed, as senseless.&quot;&#0160; London Ed suggests that Wittgenstein may be lumped in with the rejectionists.&#0160; He has a point, though I do insist on the distinction between taking &#39;Why is there anything at all?&#39; as an explanation-seeking why-question and taking it as a mere expression of wonder at the sheer existence&#0160;of things.&#0160; We know that Wittgenstein was struck with wonder at the sheer existence of things.&#0160; What is now to be discussed is whether Wittgenstein can be read as making a rejectionist response to the ultimate explanation-seeking why-question.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;Ed <a href=\"http:\/\/ocham.blogspot.com\/2012\/05\/wittgenstein-on-why-anything-exists.html\" target=\"_self\">quotes<\/a> from Anthony Kenny&#39;s book, <em>Wittgenstein<\/em>:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Logic depends on there being something in existence and there being facts; it is independent of what the facts are, of things being thus and so. That there are facts is not something which can be expressed in a proposition. If one wants to call there being facts a matter of experience, then one can say logic is empirical. But when we say something is empirical we mean that it can be imagined otherwise; in this sense every proposition with sense is a contingent proposition. And in this sense the existence of the world is not an empirical fact, because <em>we cannot think it otherwise.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">This passage cries out for commentary.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">1. Does logic depend on there being something in existence?&#0160; Yes, if we are talking about the Frege-Russell logic that young Ludwig cut his teeth on.&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; In &#39;Fressellian&#39; logic, existence is instantiation.&#0160; To say that cats exist is to say that something is a cat.&#0160; (The concept <em>cat<\/em> is instantiated.)&#0160; To say that dragons do not exist is to say that nothing is a dragon. (The concept <em>dragon<\/em> is not instantiated.)&#0160; This works nicely &#8211;&#0160;but only on the assumption that&#0160;individuals exist.&#0160; &#0160; So Kenny is surely right that (Frege-Russell) logic requires that something exists, in particular that individuals exist.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">2. But can this presupposition be expressed (said) in this logic? Here is a little challenge for you Fressellians: translate &#39;Something exists&#39; into standard logical notion.&#0160; You will discover that it cannot be done.&#0160; Briefly, if existence is instantiation, which property is it whose instantiation is the existence of something?&#0160; Same problem with &#39;Nothing exists.&#39;&#0160; If existence is instantiation, which property is it whose non-instantiation is the nonexistence of anything?&#0160; Similarly with &#39;Everthing exists&#39; and &#39;Something does not exist.&#39;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">3. I surmise that this is one of the motivations for Wittgenstein&#39;s infamous and paradoxical saying\/showing distinction. What can be said can be said clearly.&#0160; But not everything can be said.&#0160; It cannot be said that there are beings or that there are objects or that there are individuals.&#0160; For again, how does one express (say) that there are beings (existents) in Frege-Russell logic?&#0160; This system of logic rests on presuppositions that cannot be expressed within the system.&#0160; The presuppositions cannot be said but thay can be shown by the use of variables such as the individual variable &#39;x.&#39;&#0160; That is the Tractarian line.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">4. Kenny also says that logic depends on there being facts.&#0160; That&#39;s not clear.&#0160; Near the beginning of the <em>Tractatus<\/em>, LW affirms the existence of facts.&#0160; He tells us that the world is the totality of facts (<em>Tatsachen<\/em>) not of things (<em>Dinge<\/em>).&#0160; But does the Frege-Russell logic require that there be facts?&#0160; Not as far as I can see.&#0160; The mature Frege certainly did not posit facts.&#0160; Be that as it may.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">5. Is Wittgenstein a rejectionist?&#0160; Does he reject the question &#39;Why is there anything at all?&#39; as senseless or ill-formed? The case can be made that he does or at least could within his framework.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">When I raise the question why anything at all exists, I begin with the seemingly empirical fact that things exist: me, my cat, mountains, clouds . . . .&#0160;&#0160; I then entertain the thought that there might have been nothing at all.&#0160; I then demand an explanation as to why there is something given (a) that there is something and (b) that there might not have been anything.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">A Wittgensteinian rejection of the question might take the following form.&#0160;&quot;First of all, your starting point is inexpressible: it cannot be said that things exist.&#0160; That is a nonsensical pseudo-proposition. You can say, sensibly, that cats exist, but not that things exist.&#0160;That things exist is an unsayable presupposition of all thinking.&#0160; As such, we cannot think it away.&#0160; And so one cannot ask why anything exists.&quot;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">6. This form of rejectionism is as dubious as what it rests upon, namely, the Frege-Russell theory of existence and the saying\/showing distinction.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I characterized Rejectionism with respect to the question why there is anything at all as follows:&#0160; &quot;The rejectionist rejects the question as ill-formed, as senseless.&quot;&#0160; London Ed suggests that Wittgenstein may be lumped in with the rejectionists.&#0160; He has a point, though I do insist on the distinction between taking &#39;Why is there anything at &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2012\/05\/08\/wittgenstein-and-rejectionism\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Wittgenstein and Rejectionism&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[142,218,275],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-9721","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-existence","category-nothingness","category-wittgenstein"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9721","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=9721"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9721\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=9721"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=9721"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=9721"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}