{"id":9481,"date":"2012-08-07T17:40:09","date_gmt":"2012-08-07T17:40:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2012\/08\/07\/exists-first-or-second-level-distributive-or-non-distributive\/"},"modified":"2012-08-07T17:40:09","modified_gmt":"2012-08-07T17:40:09","slug":"exists-first-or-second-level-distributive-or-non-distributive","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2012\/08\/07\/exists-first-or-second-level-distributive-or-non-distributive\/","title":{"rendered":"Existence and Plural Predication: Could &#8216;Exist(s)&#8217; be a First-Level Non-Distributive Predicate?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#39;Horses exist&#39; is an example of an affirmative general existential sentence.&#0160;What is&#0160;the status of the predicate &#39;___ exist&#39; in such a sentence?&#0160;One might maintain that &#39;exist(s)&#39; is a second-level predicate; one might maintain that it is a first-level distributive predicate; one might maintain that it is a first-level non-distributive (collective) predicate.&#0160; <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">1. Frege famously maintained that &#39;exist(s)&#39; is a second-level predicate, a predicate of concepts only, and never a first-level predicate, a predicate of objects.&#0160; Russell followed him in this.&#0160; A consequence of this view is that &#39;Horses exist&#39; is not about what it seems to be about, and does not say what it seems to say.&#0160; It seems to be about horses, and seems to say of them that they exist.&#0160; But on Frege&#39;s analysis the sentence is about the concept <em>horse<\/em> and says of it, not that it exists, but that it has one or more instances.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Paradoxically, the&#0160;sentence &#39;&#39;Horses exist&#39; &#0160;on&#0160; Frege&#39;s&#0160; analysis says about a non-horse something that cannot be true of a horse or of any concrete thing!<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">For an interesting comparison, consider &#39;Horses surround my house.&#39;&#0160; Since no horse could surround my house, it is clear that the sentence is not about each of the horses that surround my house.&#0160; What then is it about?&#0160; One will be tempted to reach for some such singularist analysis as: &#39;A set of horses surrounds my house.&#39;&#0160; But this won&#39;t do since no such abstract object as a set could surround anything.&#0160; So if the sentence is really about a set of horses then it cannot say what it appears to say.&#0160; It must be taken to say something different from what it appears to say.&#0160; So what does &#39;Horses surround my house&#39; say about a set if it is about a set?&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">One might be tempted to offer this translation: &#39;A set of horses is such that its members are surrounding my house.&#39;&#0160;But this moves us in a circle, presupposing as it does that we already understand the irreducibly plural predication &#39;Horses surround my house.&#39;&#0160; After all, if the members of a set of horses surround my house that is no different from horses surrounding my house.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">The circularity here is structurally similar to that of the Fregean analysis.&#0160; If &#39;Horses exist&#39; is about a concept, and says of that concept that it has instances, then of course those instances are horses that exist.&#0160; So the attempt to remove existence from individuals and make of it a property of concepts ends up&#0160;reinstating &#0160;existence as a &#39;property&#39; of individuals.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Pursuing the analogy a bit further, the refusal to grant that there are irreducibly plural predications such as &#39;Horses surround my house&#39; is like the refusal to grant that there are irreducibly first-level existence sentences.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">2.&#0160; Pursuing the analogy still further, is it possible to construe the predicate in &#39;Horses exist&#39; as a non-distributive first-level predicate like the predicate in &#39;Horses surround my house&#39;?&#0160; First some definitions.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">A predicate F is <strong>distributive<\/strong> just in case it is analytic that whenever some things are F, then each is F.&#0160; Thus a distributive predicate is one the very meaning of which dictates that if it applies to some things, then it applies to each of them.&#0160; &#39;Blue&#39; is an example.&#0160; If some things are blue, then each of them is blue.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">If a predicate is not distributive, then it is <strong>non-distributive<\/strong> (collective).&#0160; If some Occupy-X nimrods have the building surrounded, it does not follow that each such nimrod has the building surrounded.&#0160; If some students moved a grand piano into my living room, it does not follow that each student did.&#0160; If bald eagles are becoming extinct, it does not follow that each bald eagle is becoming extinct.&#0160; Individual animals die, but no individual animal ever becomes extinct.&#0160;If the students come from many different countries, it does not follow that each comes from many different countries.&#0160; If horses have an interesting evolutionary history, it does not follow that each horse has an interesting evolutionary history.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">I will assume for the purposes of this post that &#39;Horses surround my house&#39; and &#39;Horses have an interesting evolutionary history&#39; are <a href=\"http:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/maverick_philosopher\/2010\/07\/irreducibly-plural-predication-they-are-surrounding-the-building.html\" target=\"_self\"><em>irreducibly<\/em> plural predications<\/a>.&#0160; (That they are plural is obvious; that they are <em>irreducibly<\/em> plural is not.&#0160; For arguments see Thomas McKay, <em>Plural Predication<\/em>.)&#0160;&#0160; And of course they are first-level as well: they are about horses, not about concepts or properties or propositional functions.&#0160; Now is &#39;Horses exist&#39; assimilable to &#39;Horses surround my house&#39; or is it assimilable to &#39;Horses are four-legged&#39;? The predicate in the later is a distributive first-level predicate, whereas the predicate in &#39;Horses surround my house&#39; is a non-distributive first-level predicate.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">I am assuming that the &#39;Fressellian&#39; second-level analysis is out, but I won&#39;t repeat&#0160;the arguments&#0160;I have given <em>ad nauseam<\/em> elsewhere.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">I do not understand how &#39;exist(s)&#39; could be construed as a non-distributive &#0160;predicate.&#0160;&#0160;For if it is non-distributive, then it is possible that some things exist without it being the case that each of them exists.&#0160; And that I do not understand.&#0160; If horses exist, then each horse exsts.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Peter van Inwagen seems (though it not clear to me) to be saying that &#39;exists(s)&#39; is a non-distributive first-level predicate.&#0160;He&#0160;compares &#39;Horses exist&#39; to &#39;Horses have an interesting evolutionary history.&#39;&#0160; &#0160;&#39;Horses exist,&#39; he tells us, is equivalent to &#39;The number of horses is not zero.&#39;&#0160; (&quot;Being, Existence, and Ontological Commitment,&quot; p. 483)&#0160; But he denies that &#39;exists(s)&#39; is second-level.&#0160; To say that the number of horses is not zero is to predicate of <em>horses<\/em> that they number&#0160;more than zero. (483)&#0160; It is not to predicate of the concept <em>horse<\/em> that the cardinality of its extension is more than zero.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Now we cannot say of a horse that it surrounds a house or has an interesting evolutionary history.&#0160; We can say that of horses, but&#0160;not of a horse.&#0160; Can we say of a horse that it numbers more than zero?&#0160; We can of course say of horses that they number more than zero. But I don&#39;t see how we can sensibly say of an individual horse that it numbers more than zero.&#0160; Perhaps Frege was wrong to think that number words can only be predicates of concepts which are ones-over-many.&#0160; Perhaps all one needs&#0160;is the many, the plurality.&#0160; But it seems one needs at least that to swerve as logical subject.&#0160; If this is right, and to exist is to number more than zero, then we cannot sensibly say of an individual that it exists.&#0160; We can say this of individuals but not&#0160;of an individual.&#0160; But surely we can say of an individual horse that it exists.&#0160; So I conclude that &#39;exist(s)&#39; cannot be a first-level non-distributive predicate.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">3.&#0160; And so one is driven&#0160; to the conclusion that &#39;exist(s)&#39; is a first-level distributive predicate.&#0160; &#39;Horses exist&#39; says of each individual horse that it exists.&#0160; But isn&#39;t this equally objectionable?&#0160;&#0160; The vast majority of horses are such that I have no acquaintance with them at all.&#0160; So how can my use of &#39;Horses exist&#39; be about each horse?&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">It is at this juncture that Frege gets his revenge:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">We must not think that I mean to assert something of an African chieftain from darkest Africa who is wholly unknown to me, when I say &#39;All men are mortal.&#39;&#0160; I am not saying anything about either this man or that man, but I am subordinating the concept man to the concept of what is mortal.&#0160; In the sentence &#39;Plato is mortal&#39; we have an instance of<em> subsumption<\/em>, in the sentence &#39;All men are mortal&#39; one of <em>subordination<\/em>.&#0160; What is being spoken about here is a concept, not an individual thing. (<strong>Posthumous Writings<\/strong>, p. 213)<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Plato falls under the concept <em>man<\/em>; he does not fall within it.&#0160; The concept <em>mortal<\/em> does not fall under the concept <em>man<\/em> &#8212; no concept is a man &#8212; but falls within it.&#0160; When I say that all men are mortal I am not talking about individual men, but about the concept <em>man<\/em>, and I am saying that this concept has as part of its content the subconcept <em>mortal<\/em>.&#0160; <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Similarly, my utterance of &#39;Horses exist&#39; cannot be about&#0160;each horse; it is about the concept <em>horse<\/em>, and says that it has instances &#8212; which is the view I began by rejecting and for god reason.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">We seem to have painted ourselves into an aporetic corner.&#0160; No exit. <em>Kein Ausgang<\/em>. <em>A-poria<\/em>.<\/span>&#0160;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#39;Horses exist&#39; is an example of an affirmative general existential sentence.&#0160;What is&#0160;the status of the predicate &#39;___ exist&#39; in such a sentence?&#0160;One might maintain that &#39;exist(s)&#39; is a second-level predicate; one might maintain that it is a first-level distributive predicate; one might maintain that it is a first-level non-distributive (collective) predicate.&#0160; 1. 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