{"id":9008,"date":"2013-02-06T05:41:21","date_gmt":"2013-02-06T05:41:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2013\/02\/06\/objections-and-replies\/"},"modified":"2013-02-06T05:41:21","modified_gmt":"2013-02-06T05:41:21","slug":"objections-and-replies","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2013\/02\/06\/objections-and-replies\/","title":{"rendered":"On the Nature of Accidents: Objections and Replies"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Lukas Novak comments and I respond.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Bill, what follows is what I consider the most important objection against your theory. It seems to me that in order to keep the basic meaning of &quot;universal&quot; and &quot;particular&quot; the following definitions must be assumed: <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">1. A universal is that which is (truly) predicable of many particular instances.&#0160; <span style=\"color: #0000bf;\">BV: I agree if &#39;many&#39; means&#0160;two or more.&#0160; I would add that a universal is a repeatable entity.&#0160; But I suspect Novak will not agree with my addition.&#0160; I suspect his view is that there are no universals in extramental reality.&#0160; Universals are concepts.&#0160; Hence I would expect him to balk at &#39;entity.&#39;<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">2. X is an instance of a given universal U iff U is predicated of X.&#0160;<span style=\"color: #0000bf;\"> BV: I would say &#39;predicable&#39; instead of &#39;predicated.&#39;&#0160; Predication is something we do in thought and&#0160;with words.&#0160; A universal can have an instance whether or not any predication is taking place.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">3. U1 is subordinate to U2 iff all instances of U1 are instances of U2. This is expressed in language in the form &quot;Every U1 is an U2&quot; &#8211; for example, &quot;Every man is an animal&quot;.&#0160; <span style=\"color: #0000bf;\">BV: OK.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">4. Every universal has at least some possible instances, unless it is intrinsically inconsistent.&#0160; Now whiteness and color are universals. By common sense, color is&#0160; superordinate to whiteness. So, every whiteness is a color. Peter&#39;s whiteness, on the other hand, is a particular. We must assume that Peter&#39;s whiteness is an instance of whiteness, and also of color &#8211; since whiteness and color are not intrinsically inconsistent and there are no more plausible candidates to [be] their instances than Peter&#39;s whiteness, Bob&#39;s blackness etc.&#0160; <span style=\"color: #0000bf;\">BV: So far, so good!<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">But here comes the problem. If Peter&#39;s whiteness contains whiteness, then Peter&#39;s color contains color as its constituent.&#0160;&#0160; <span style=\"color: #0000bf;\">BV:&#0160; It is true that Peter is white, and it is true that if Peter is white, then he is colored.&#0160; But it doesn&#39;t follow that there is the accident Peter&#39;s coloredness.&#0160; Accidents are real (extramental) items.&#0160; Peter really exists and his whiteness really exists.&#0160; But there is not, in addition to Peter&#39;s whiteness, the accident Peter&#39;s coloredness.&#0160; <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #0000bf; font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Argument 1:&#0160;It is accidental that Peter is white (or pale) due perhaps to a deficiency of sunlight.&#0160; But it is not accidental that Peter is colored.&#0160; Peter is a concrete material particular, and necessarily, every such particular has some color or other.&#0160; Therefore, being colored is not an accident of Peter. Being colored is essential to Peter.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #0000bf; font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Argument 2:&#0160; The truth-maker of &#39;Peter is white&#39; is Peter&#39;s being white.&#0160; But Peter&#39;s being white is also the truth-maker of &#39;Peter is colored.&#39;&#0160; Therefore, there is no need to posit in reality, besides Peter&#39;s being white, Peter&#39;s being colored.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #0000bf; font-family: georgia,palatino;\">I therefore say that there is no such accident as Peter&#39;s being colored.&#0160; Consequently, the rest of Novak&#39;s reasoing is moot.&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">You may perhaps say that Peter&#39;s whiteness also contains color because whiteness contains color, but certainly color does not contain whiteness in that case (else they would coincide), and therefore Peter&#39;s color does not contain whiteness. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #0000bf; font-family: georgia,palatino;\">BV: We have to be careful not to equivocate on &#39;contain.&#39;&#0160; In one sense of &#39;contain,&#39; whiteness contains color or coloredness.&#0160; We could call this conceptual inclusion:&#0160; whiteness includes coloredness as a part.&#0160; In a second sense of &#39;contain, &#39; if x is an ontological constituent of y, then y contains x.&#0160; Thus the accidental compound [Peter + whiteness]&#0160; contains the substance Peter&#0160;and the accident whiteness, but does not contain them in the way whiteness contains color.&#0160; <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Consequently, Peter&#39;s color is not an instance of whiteness. But this contradicts the fact that Peter&#39;s color just is Peter&#39;s whiteness, because Peter&#39;s whiteness is a color (by def. 3, assuming that whiteness is subordinate to color), and there is no other color in Peter than his whiteness (let us so stipulate). <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Put very simply: if Peter&#39;s whiteness is just Peter+whiteness+NE+time, then Peter&#39;s color is just Peter+color+NE+time, but then Peter&#39;s whiteness is not Peter&#39;s color. But this is wrong since whiteness is subordinate to color and so any instance of whiteness must be identical to an instance of color.&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #0000bf; font-family: georgia,palatino;\">BV: Novak&#39;s argument could be put as follows:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #0000bf; font-family: georgia,palatino;\">a. If Peter&#39;s whiteness is a complex having among its constituents the universal whiteness, then Peter&#39;s coloredness is a complex having among its constituents&#0160;&#0160;the universal coloredness.&#0160;&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #0000bf; font-family: georgia,palatino;\">b. These are numerically distinct complexes.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #0000bf; font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Therefore<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #0000bf; font-family: georgia,palatino;\">c. Peter&#39;s whiteness is not Peter&#39;s coloredness.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #0000bf; font-family: georgia,palatino;\">d. (c) is false.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #0000bf; font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Therefore<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #0000bf; font-family: georgia,palatino;\">e. 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Bill, what follows is what I consider the most important objection against your theory. It seems to me that in order to keep the basic meaning of &quot;universal&quot; and &quot;particular&quot; the following definitions must be assumed: 1. 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