{"id":8819,"date":"2013-05-01T15:36:12","date_gmt":"2013-05-01T15:36:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2013\/05\/01\/the-absurd-nagel-camus-lupu\/"},"modified":"2013-05-01T15:36:12","modified_gmt":"2013-05-01T15:36:12","slug":"the-absurd-nagel-camus-lupu","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2013\/05\/01\/the-absurd-nagel-camus-lupu\/","title":{"rendered":"The Absurd: Nagel, Camus, Lupu"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">I have been re-reading Thomas Nagel&#39;s seminal paper, &quot;The Absurd,&quot; which originally appeared in <em>The Journal of Philosophy<\/em>, October 1971, and is collected in Nagel&#39;s <strong>Mortal Questions<\/strong> (Cambridge UP, 1979, 11-23.)&#0160; Damn, but it is good.&#0160; Nagel is one of our best philosophers.&#0160; He&#39;s the real thing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Nagel&#39;s central contention is that human existence is <em>essentially<\/em> absurd.&#0160; Thus&#0160;the absurdity of our&#0160;predicament&#0160;is not in any way accidental or contingent or due to some remediable (by God or man) disproportion or &#39;disconnect&#39; between the demands of the human heart and mind for meaning and intelligibility, on the one hand, &#0160;and the world&#39;s &#39;indifference&#39; to our concerns, on the other.&#0160; In this regard Nagel&#39;s position is far more radical than Camus&#39; as&#0160;the latter&#0160;presents it in <em>The Myth of Sisyphus<\/em>.&#0160; For Camus, something is dreadfully wrong:&#0160; the world <em>ought<\/em> to meet our demands for meaning and intelligibility but it doesn&#39;t.&#0160; For Camus, absurdity is rooted in the discrepancy&#0160; between demand and satisfaction, a demand that in some way ought to be satisfied and therefore in some sense could be satisfied.&#0160; (The &#39;ought&#39; in question is non-agential; <a href=\"http:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/maverick_philosopher\/2011\/03\/the-ought-to-be-and-the-ought-to-do-and-the-aporetics-of-be-ye-perfect.html\" target=\"_self\">here&#0160;<\/a>is some discussion of such oughts.)<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Camus protests that things are not the way they are supposed to be, but they are, alas,&#0160;the way they are, and so all we can do is shake our fists at the universe in defiance.&#0160; Nagel&#39;s posture is less heroic and more ironic.&#0160; <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">For Nagel there is no non-agential ought to have been otherwise or could have been otherwise with respect to the meaning of human existence: our lives are necessarily absurd because there is in us a conflict that&#0160;is unavoidable, a conflict between our limited, perspectival, situated, individual &#0160;points of view and the transcendental point of view&#0160;from which we observe ourselves&#0160; and everything else <em>sub specie aeternitatis<\/em>.&#0160; The general and philosophical sense of absurdity arises when these two points of view come into conflict.&#0160; Nagel speaks of &quot;the collision between the seriousness with which we take our lives and the perpretual possibility of regarding everything&#0160;about which&#0160;which we are serious as arbitrary or open to doubt.&quot; (13)&#0160; <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Immersed&#0160;as I am in in my quotidian toilings and moilings, I take my life and its projects with utmost seriousness.&#0160; For example, the other day I&#0160;went back into my archives to correct a minor mistake I had made in a post from years ago.&#0160; But while I was very concerned to make this correction and make it right, I was also aware of the &#39;absurdity&#39; of being worried about such a bagatelle.&#0160; Who cares?&#0160; &#0160;As transcendental spectator even I don&#39;t much care.&#0160; It is easy to detach oneself in thought from one&#39;s projects and purposes and very life and see them as arbitrary, contingent, and without objective meaning or purpose or significance.&#0160; What matters greatly from our situated perspectives can seem to matter not at all when we ascend to the transcendental perspective.&#0160; &#0160; But of course I am not just a transcendental spectator of &quot;all time and existence&quot; (Plato, <em>Republic<\/em>) but also this here measly chunk of animated aging flesh with a very personal history and fate and a reputation to maintain.&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">It is most marvellously true that I am a conscious and self-conscious being, projective of plans and purposes, sensitive to reasons as opposed to causes, and alive to the full range of the normative; but I am also an <em>embodied<\/em> conscious and self-conscious being with all that that entails: I can be crushed, blown apart, invaded&#0160;by microorganisms,&#0160;. . . .&#0160; Human existence cannot be reduced to the existence of specimens of a highly evolved zoological species, but <em>I am<\/em> a specimen of such a species.&#0160; Thus when we ask about the meaning of life we are really asking about <em>the meaning of embodied consciousness<\/em>.&#0160; I believe this is a very important point.&#0160; For it implies that the question cannot be addressed in a a wholly objectifying manner.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">As I read him, Nagel is telling us that the root of absurdity is in us as embodied consciousnesses,&#0160;not in the world or in any disproportion between us and the world.&#0160; It is an ineradicable root.&#0160; Both POVs are available to us &#8212; and we must avail ourselves of both if we are to live fully human lives &#8212; but they are necessarily in conflict.&#0160; Or so it seems.&#0160; If I am to live my life with zest and passion and commitment, then I cannot live the detached life of the transcendental ego who merely observes while his physical vehicle negotiates the twists and turns of this gnarly&#0160;world.&#0160; (This is a deep and complicated theme requiring much more discussion.)&#0160; Borrowing some Heideggerian jargon we can say that for Nagel the sense of the absurd is&#0160;<em>constitutive<\/em>&#0160;&#0160;of human <em>Dasein<\/em>.&#0160; To be a fully awake human being, one who avails himself of both POVs, is to live with the sense of the absurd.&#0160; The only way to escape our absurd predicament would be by causing the cessation of embodiment (suicide) or by somehow&#8211; via meditation perhaps&#8211; emptying the &#39;I&#39; out into something pre- or non-egoic.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">I think it is important to point out that for Nagel and in truth the absurd exists only as the sense of the absurd.&#0160; This is another way of saying that the absurdity of the human predicament is not a merely objective fact if it is a fact: it involves consciousness\/self-consciousness.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Is the absurdity of human existence a problem to be solved?&#0160; It cannot be a problem that we can solve since it arises necessarily from the collision of the two POVs both of which are essential to being human.&#0160; If the problem arises for a person, then that person cannot both solve the problem and continue to exist.&#0160; (This is not to say that the problem must arise for every person since not everyone exercises his capacity to reflect on matters under the aspect of eternity.)&#0160; Nor is absurdity a predicament.&#0160; To call a state of affairs a predicament is to suggest the possibility of extrication.&#0160; But there is no escape from absurdity.&#0160; So it is neither a problem nor a predicament. What is called for is not the defiant posturing of an&#0160;Algerian existentialist but irony:&#0160; &quot;If <em>sub specie aeternitatis<\/em> there is no reason to believe that anything matters, then that does not matter either, and we can approach our absurd lives with irony instead of heroism or despair.&quot; (23)<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">As for Peter Lupu, he seems to be maintaining&#0160; the exact opposite&#0160;of what Nagel maintains.&#0160; Peter&#39;s thought seems to be that the meaning of an individual life is constituted&#0160; by the power to reflect.&#0160; Every agent of a life has this power essentially even if not all choose to exercise it.&#0160; Meaning is therefore not&#0160;bestowed by the agent upon himself or by something or someone outside the agent such as God.&#0160; Existential meaning inheres in the agent&#39;s power to reflect on his life, his values, desires, and purposes.&#0160; For Lupu, meaning is not subjective .&#0160; Nor is it externally objective, imposed from without.&#0160; Every life is meaningful just in virtue of the agent&#39;s power to reflect.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">I <a href=\"http:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/maverick_philosopher\/2013\/04\/there-is-no-meaning-that-is-both-nonsubjective-and-subjectively-appropriable.html\" target=\"_self\">questioned<\/a> whether existential meaning could be both objective and subjectively appropriable by all.&#0160; Lupu thinks he can answer this by saying that meaning is objective albeit internally objective in virtue of every agent&#39;s having <em>essentially<\/em> the power to reflect; but meaning is also subjectively appropriable by each agent if he chooses to actualize his&#0160;power to&#0160;reflect.&#0160; Here again is my aporetic tetrad:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">A. If life has a meaning, then it cannot be subjective.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">B. The meaning of life&#0160;must be subjectively appropriable by all.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">C. There is no meaning that is both nonsubjective and subjectively appropriable by all.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">D. Life has a meaning.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Lupu solves my tetrad by rejecting (C) while accepting the remaining limbs.&#0160; Nagel, I would guess, would solve the tetrad by rejecting (D) while accepting the other limbs.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">There are several questions I need to pose to Lupu, but for now let me just pose a Nagelian question\/objection.&#0160; Nagel is surely on to something when he underscores the power of reflection to undermine the seriousness of our projects and make them appear arbitrary, contingent, and dubious.&#0160; When this power is exercised it collides with our tendency toward straighforward unreflective living under the guidance of taken-for-granted norms and values imbibed uncritically from the circumambient culture.&#0160; How can Lupu accommodate Nagel&#39;s point?&#0160; Is it not more plausible to hold that it is absurdity, not meaning, that is the upshot of reflection?<\/span>&#0160;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I have been re-reading Thomas Nagel&#39;s seminal paper, &quot;The Absurd,&quot; which originally appeared in The Journal of Philosophy, October 1971, and is collected in Nagel&#39;s Mortal Questions (Cambridge UP, 1979, 11-23.)&#0160; Damn, but it is good.&#0160; Nagel is one of our best philosophers.&#0160; He&#39;s the real thing. Nagel&#39;s central contention is that human existence is &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2013\/05\/01\/the-absurd-nagel-camus-lupu\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;The Absurd: Nagel, Camus, Lupu&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[326,410,77,225],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-8819","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-camus","category-existentialism","category-meaning-of-life","category-nagel-thomas"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8819","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=8819"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8819\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=8819"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=8819"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=8819"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}