{"id":8580,"date":"2013-08-02T18:28:25","date_gmt":"2013-08-02T18:28:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2013\/08\/02\/trying-to-understand-ockham-on-supposita\/"},"modified":"2013-08-02T18:28:25","modified_gmt":"2013-08-02T18:28:25","slug":"trying-to-understand-ockham-on-supposita","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2013\/08\/02\/trying-to-understand-ockham-on-supposita\/","title":{"rendered":"Trying to Understand Ockham on Supposita in Light of the Incarnation"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">I am presently working through Marilyn McCord Adams, &quot;Aristotelian Substance and Supposits&quot; (<em>Proceedings of the Aristotelian Society<\/em>, supplementary volume 79, 2005, 15-72).&#0160; The Czech scholastics and sometime <em>MavPhil<\/em> commenters Novak, Novotny, Vohanka, et al. have kindly invited me to read a paper at a conference on the Trinity in Prague this September and now I am under the gun to write something worth&#0160;their time and attention.&#0160; <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Adams writes, p. 39, &quot;(Ockham is willing to conclude that &#39;A human supposit can be assumed&#39; is true, even though &#39;A human supposit is assumed&#39; is contradictory; just as &#39;A white can be black&#39; is true,&#0160; even though &#39;A white is black&#39; is impossible.)&quot;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">My present purpose is to make sense of this quotation. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">I&#0160;give &#39;A white can be black&#39; a <em>de re<\/em> reading as follows:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">1. A white thing is (logically) possibly such that it is not white.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">For example, here is a piece of white paper.&#0160; Heeding Mick Jagger&#39;s injunction, I can <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Y_KXf2pb4Lk\" target=\"_self\">paint it black<\/a>.&#0160; But I wouldn&#39;t be able to do this if it were not logically possible for this thing&#0160;that is actually white to be non-white. Although, necessarily, nothing white is non-white, the piece of paper is contingently white.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">I give &#39;A white is black&#39; a <em>de dicto<\/em> reading:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">2. It is not (logically) possible that a white thing be non-white.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">On these readings, both (1) and (2)&#0160;come out&#0160;true.&#0160; (1) is about a thing (<em>res<\/em>) and ascribes a modal property to it; (2) is about a proposition (<em>dictum<\/em>) and ascribes a modal property to it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">I give &#39;A human supposit can be assumed&#39; a <em>de re<\/em> reading:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">3. A human supposit is (logically) possibly such that it is assumed.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">From the opening page of Adams&#39; paper, I gather that&#0160;a supposit is an Aristotelian primary (individual) substance.&#0160; So Socrates and Plato are human supposits, while a donkey is a supposit that is not human.&#0160; And from her gloss on Boethius, I gather that a person is a primary substance of a rational nature.&#0160; So Socrates and Plato are persons while a donkey is not. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Now if God incarnate is one person in two natures, as Chalcedonian orthodoxy has it, then God cannot assume a man.&#0160; For a man is a supposit of a rational nature, hence a person.&#0160; If God were to assume a man, then God the Son &#8212; a person &#8212; would be assuming a second person.&#0160; But <em>pace<\/em> Nestorious, there are not two natures and two persons in Christ, but one person in two natures.&#0160; So what is assumed in the Incarnation is not a supposit but a particularized human nature.&#0160; This is why &#39;A human supposit is assumed&#39; is contradictory. That is, in <em>de dicto<\/em> terms,<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">4. It is (logically) impossible that a human supposit be assumed.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">(3) and (4) can both be true.&#0160; It is impossible that a human supposit be assumed, for it it were it wouldn&#39;t be a supposit; but something that is a human supposit is possibly such that it is assumed. But this has the strange consequence that human supposits are only <em>contingently<\/em> supposits.&#0160; So Socrates is not essentially a supposit,&#0160; and if a supposit is a primary substance, the Socrates is not essentially a primary substance.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Thus&#0160;Adams ascribes to Ockham the view that &quot;The property of being a supposit is not essential to any creatable\/created thing, because any creatable\/created thing whatever can exist wthout it.&quot; (p. 39)&#0160; So whatever is a supposit might not have been.&#0160; Or rather whatever is a supposit might not have been its own supposit: every supposit is possibly such as to have an &#39;alien supposit,&#39; namely God.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">What is curious here is how very specific theological doctrines are allowed to drive the general ontology.<\/span>&#0160;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I am presently working through Marilyn McCord Adams, &quot;Aristotelian Substance and Supposits&quot; (Proceedings of the Aristotelian Society, supplementary volume 79, 2005, 15-72).&#0160; The Czech scholastics and sometime MavPhil commenters Novak, Novotny, Vohanka, et al. have kindly invited me to read a paper at a conference on the Trinity in Prague this September and now I &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2013\/08\/02\/trying-to-understand-ockham-on-supposita\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Trying to Understand Ockham on Supposita in Light of the Incarnation&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[362,288],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-8580","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-scholasticism-new-and-old","category-trinity-and-incarnation"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8580","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=8580"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8580\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=8580"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=8580"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=8580"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}