{"id":8470,"date":"2013-09-27T12:55:48","date_gmt":"2013-09-27T12:55:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2013\/09\/27\/the-original-christian-revelation-the-bible-or-the-teaching-of-jesus\/"},"modified":"2013-09-27T12:55:48","modified_gmt":"2013-09-27T12:55:48","slug":"the-original-christian-revelation-the-bible-or-the-teaching-of-jesus","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2013\/09\/27\/the-original-christian-revelation-the-bible-or-the-teaching-of-jesus\/","title":{"rendered":"The Original Christian Revelation: The Bible or the Teaching of Jesus?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Richard Swinburne, <em>Revelation<\/em>, Oxford, 1992, pp. 102-103:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">. . . there has been a strain in Protestantism, with its immense reverence for Scripture, to write of Holy Scripture itself as the original [propositional] revelation; what was given by God was the Bible.&#0160; But that surely fits very badly with other things that those same Protestants wish to say: for example that there were Christians in the first four centuries AD.&#0160; For the books of the New Testament were not written down until from twenty to seventy years after Christ taught on Earth, and were only put together and recognized as a New Testament in final form in the fourth century AD.&#0160; If the books themselves were the revelation, how could there be Chrsitians when there were no books?&#0160; [Footnote 6 not reproduced: it quotes Iraneus and Papias as quoted by Eusebius.]&#0160; Holy Scripture must be regarded by Protestants as it is by Catholics, as no more than a true record of a revelation which existed before it.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<fieldset class=\"zemanta-related\">\n<legend class=\"zemanta-related-title\">Related articles<\/legend>\n<div class=\"zemanta-article-ul zemanta-article-ul-image\" style=\"margin: 0px; padding: 0px; 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