{"id":6713,"date":"2016-01-20T15:23:01","date_gmt":"2016-01-20T15:23:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2016\/01\/20\/a-puzzle-about-direct-reference\/"},"modified":"2016-01-20T15:23:01","modified_gmt":"2016-01-20T15:23:01","slug":"a-puzzle-about-direct-reference","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2016\/01\/20\/a-puzzle-about-direct-reference\/","title":{"rendered":"A Puzzle About Direct Reference"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">The paradigms of direct reference are the indexicals and the demonstratives.&#0160; The English letter &#39;I&#39; is not the English word &#39;I,&#39; and the word &#39;I&#39; &#8212; the first-person singular pronoun &#8212; has non-indexical uses.&#0160; But let&#39;s consider a standard indexical use of this pronoun.&#0160;&#0160; Tom says to Tina,&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">I am hungry.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Tom refers to himself <em>directly<\/em> using &#39;I.&#39;&#0160; That means: Tom refers to himself, but not via a description that he uniquely satisfies.&#0160; The reference is not routed through a reference-determining&#0160; sense.&#0160; If you think it is so routed, tell me what the reference-determining sense of your&#0160; indexical uses of the first person singular pronoun is.&#0160;&#0160; I wish you the best of luck.<br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">As I understand it, to say of a singular term that it is directly referential is <em>not<\/em> to say that it lacks sense, but that it lacks a <em>reference-determining<\/em> sense.&#0160; The indexical &#39;now&#39;&#0160; does have a sense in that whatever it picks out must be a time, indeed, a time that is present.&#0160; But this very general sense does not make a use of &#39;now&#39; refer to the precise time to which it refers.&#0160; So &#39;now&#39; is directly referential despite its having a sense.&#0160;&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Consider the demonstrative &#39;this.&#39;&#0160; Pointing to a red-hot poker poker, I say &#39;This is hot!&#39;&#0160; You agree and say &#39;This is hot!&#39;&#0160; We point to the same thing and we say the same thing.&#0160; The same thing we say is the proposition.&#0160; The proposition is true.&#0160; Neither the poker nor its degree of heat are true.&#0160; The reference of &#39;this&#39; is direct.&#0160; It seems to follow that <em>the poker itself<\/em> is a constituent of the proposition that is before both of our minds and that we agree is true.&#0160; The poker itself, not an abstract and immaterial surrogate or representative of the material poker.&#0160; But then propositions are Russellian as opposed to Fregean.&#0160; The poker itself, the whole infinitely-propertied nasty metallic&#0160; rod, not an abstract surrogate such as a Fregean sense, is a constituent of the proposition.&#0160; <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">How can this be?&#0160; I grasp the proposition expressed by &#39;This is hot!&#39;&#0160; So I grasp its constituents.&#0160; (Assumption: I cannot grasp or understand a proposition unless I understand its logical parts.) But how is it possible for my poor little finite mind to grasp the hot poker in all its infinitely-propertied reality? Here is an aporetic triad for your consideration:<br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">The&#0160; proposition is in or before my mind.&#0160; <br \/>The hot poker itself is a constituent of the&#0160; proposition.<br \/>The hot poker itself is not in or before my mind.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">How will you solve this bad boy?&#0160; Each limb is highly plausible but they cannot all be true.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">The first limb is well-nigh datanic.&#0160; Since I understand the proposition expressed by &#39;This is hot&#39; asserted while pointing to a hot poker, the proposition is before my mind.&#0160; <br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">The second limb is plausible because the meaning of &#39;this&#39; is exhausted by its referent.&#0160; Surely &#39;this&#39; lacks a reference-determining or Fregean sense.&#0160; Since no Fregean sense is the subject-constituent of the proposition, it must be the Fregean referent that is the subject-constituent.&#0160; That implies that the proposition is not Fregean but Russellian.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">The third limb is extremely plausible because a finite intellect cannot have present to it an infinitely-propertied object.&#0160; For example, the poker is hot and perceived to be hot and is therefore determinate with respect to being hot or not hot; but as perceived by me it is indeterminate with respect to the exact degree of&#0160; being hot, even though in reality it must have some definite degree of being hot or other.&#0160; <br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">So that&#39;s the puzzle.&#0160; How do we solve it?&#0160; <em>Note to London Ed<\/em>:&#0160; Tell me whether you think the problem as set forth is genuine as opposed to pseudo.&#0160; If genuine, how would you solve it?<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">My tendency is to reject the second limb and affirm that all propositions are Fregean. If all propositions are Fregean, then no proposition has as a constituent an infinitely-propertied material object such as a red-hot poker.<br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">But if I say this, then it seems that I cannot say that the reference of &#39;this&#39; is direct.&#0160; But if not direct, then mediated by a Fregean sense.&#0160; What then is the sense of &#39;this&#39;? It seems obvious that it cannot have a Fregean sense. <br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Perhaps the solution is to say that the reference of &#39;this&#39; is direct all right, but not to an infinitely-propertied chunk of physical reality, but to an incomplete object, something like what Hector-Neri Castaneda calls an &quot;ontological guise&quot; or what Husserl calls a noema.&#0160; But if these incomplete objects are not to be mediating items standing between the mind and the infinitely-propertied massive chunk of physical reality, then these incomplete objects or ontological guises must be constituents, ontological parts of the massive chunk, &quot;consubstantiated&quot; guises that constitute a complete mind-independent existent.<br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<fieldset class=\"zemanta-related\">\n<legend class=\"zemanta-related-title\">Related articles<\/legend>\n<div class=\"zemanta-article-ul zemanta-article-ul-image\" style=\"margin: 0; padding: 0; overflow: hidden;\">\n<div class=\"zemanta-article-ul-li-image zemanta-article-ul-li\" style=\"padding: 0; background: none; list-style: none; display: block; float: left; vertical-align: top; text-align: left; width: 84px; font-size: 11px; margin: 2px 10px 10px 2px;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/maverick_philosopher\/2015\/01\/language-and-reality.html\" style=\"box-shadow: 0px 0px 4px #999; padding: 2px; display: block; border-radius: 2px; text-decoration: none;\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/i.zemanta.com\/320883686_80_80.jpg\" style=\"padding: 0; margin: 0; border: 0; display: block; width: 80px; max-width: 100%;\" \/><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/maverick_philosopher\/2015\/01\/language-and-reality.html\" style=\"display: block; overflow: hidden; text-decoration: none; line-height: 12pt; height: 80px; padding: 5px 2px 0 2px;\" target=\"_blank\">Language and Reality<\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"zemanta-article-ul-li-image zemanta-article-ul-li\" style=\"padding: 0; background: none; list-style: none; display: block; float: left; vertical-align: top; text-align: left; width: 84px; font-size: 11px; margin: 2px 10px 10px 2px;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/maverick_philosopher\/2016\/01\/reference-some-distinctions.html\" style=\"box-shadow: 0px 0px 4px #999; padding: 2px; display: block; border-radius: 2px; text-decoration: none;\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/i.zemanta.com\/noimg_90_80_80.jpg\" style=\"padding: 0; margin: 0; border: 0; display: block; width: 80px; max-width: 100%;\" \/><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/maverick_philosopher\/2016\/01\/reference-some-distinctions.html\" style=\"display: block; overflow: hidden; text-decoration: none; line-height: 12pt; height: 80px; padding: 5px 2px 0 2px;\" target=\"_blank\">Reference: Some Distinctions<\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"zemanta-article-ul-li-image zemanta-article-ul-li\" style=\"padding: 0; background: none; list-style: none; display: block; float: left; vertical-align: top; text-align: left; width: 84px; font-size: 11px; margin: 2px 10px 10px 2px;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/maverick_philosopher\/2014\/11\/christology-reduplicatives-and-qua-entities.html\" style=\"box-shadow: 0px 0px 4px #999; padding: 2px; display: block; border-radius: 2px; text-decoration: none;\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/i.zemanta.com\/308267285_80_80.jpg\" style=\"padding: 0; margin: 0; border: 0; display: block; width: 80px; max-width: 100%;\" \/><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/maverick_philosopher\/2014\/11\/christology-reduplicatives-and-qua-entities.html\" style=\"display: block; overflow: hidden; text-decoration: none; line-height: 12pt; height: 80px; padding: 5px 2px 0 2px;\" target=\"_blank\">Christology, Reduplicatives, and Qua-Entities<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/fieldset>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The paradigms of direct reference are the indexicals and the demonstratives.&#0160; The English letter &#39;I&#39; is not the English word &#39;I,&#39; and the word &#39;I&#39; &#8212; the first-person singular pronoun &#8212; has non-indexical uses.&#0160; But let&#39;s consider a standard indexical use of this pronoun.&#0160;&#0160; Tom says to Tina,&#0160; I am hungry. 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