{"id":6697,"date":"2016-01-27T16:29:34","date_gmt":"2016-01-27T16:29:34","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2016\/01\/27\/james-v-schall-on-the-true-islam\/"},"modified":"2016-01-27T16:29:34","modified_gmt":"2016-01-27T16:29:34","slug":"james-v-schall-on-the-true-islam","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2016\/01\/27\/james-v-schall-on-the-true-islam\/","title":{"rendered":"James V. Schall on the “True” Islam"},"content":{"rendered":"

Here<\/a>.  Excerpts:<\/span><\/p>\n

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Lumen Gentium<\/em>, the Dogmatic Constitution on the Church of Vatican II, states that the Mohammedans \u201cprofess their faith as the faith of Abraham, and with us they worship the one, merciful God who will judge men on the last day\u201d (par 16). At first sight, that statement appears friendly and matter-of-fact; the \u201cfaith\u201d of Muslims is evidently thought to be the same \u201cwith us\u201d. We \u201cagree\u201d about a last judgment and a merciful God who is one. This mutual understanding apparently comes from Abraham. This way of putting the issue argues to a common origin of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, each of which \u201cappeared\u201d in history at different times\u2014the New Testament some twelve hundred years after Abraham and Islam some seven hundred years after the time of Christ.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

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In the West, Islam refers to the religion preached in Arabia by Mohammed beginning in the seventh century. But the Muslims themselves consider their religion to be much older than Mohammed. Indeed, it is said to go directly to Allah, passing through nothing, not even the interpretation of Mohammed. In this sense, Mohammed was in no sense an \u201cauthor\u201d of the Qur\u2019an as the evangelists were said to be \u201cauthors\u201d of their respective Gospels, or as the prophet Samuel was said to be the author of the Books of Samuel.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

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The Qur\u2019an also relativizes the Old and New Testaments as faulty documents that have stolen or mis-interpreted the original Qur\u2019an text properly located in the mind of Allah. The most obvious comment on this understanding is that the opposite is what happened. The Qur\u2019an was itself a selection and interpretation from earlier Jewish and Christian sources. When this became obvious, a theory developed of a prior revelation in the mind of Allah that was only later spoken through Mohammed. This view became the device to save Islam from incoherence.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

This is relevant to the question whether Christians and Muslims worship the same God.<\/span><\/p>\n

Some seem to think that the common Abrahamic origin of Christianity and Islam shows that one and the same God is worshiped, albeit in different ways, by the two religions.  But this is not the Muslim understanding of things given that they hold that the Old and New Testaments are based on theft  and misinterpretation of the original Qu'ranic texts in the mind of God . The common origin for Muslims is in the eternal, pre-existent Qu'ran with Judaism and Christianity being falsifications.<\/span><\/p>\n

It is not as if God progressively reveals himself in Judaism, Christinaity, and Islam.  For Muslims, the Qur'an pre-exists eternally in the mind of Allah.  Muhammad merely takes dictation.  The eternal Word of God is not a person but a book — in Arabic, no less.  God does not freely reveal himself to man as in Judaism and Christinaity: the divine revelation is already there in final form in the mind of God.<\/span><\/p>\n

These considerations seem to put considerable stress on the notion that Christians and Muslims worship the same God.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Here.  Excerpts: Lumen Gentium, the Dogmatic Constitution on the Church of Vatican II, states that the Mohammedans \u201cprofess their faith as the faith of Abraham, and with us they worship the one, merciful God who will judge men on the last day\u201d (par 16). At first sight, that statement appears friendly and matter-of-fact; the \u201cfaith\u201d … Continue reading “James V. Schall on the “True” Islam”<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[62,119],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6697","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-catholic-corner","category-islamism"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6697","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=6697"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6697\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=6697"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=6697"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=6697"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}