{"id":6374,"date":"2016-06-12T05:35:57","date_gmt":"2016-06-12T05:35:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2016\/06\/12\/god-and-proof\/"},"modified":"2016-06-12T05:35:57","modified_gmt":"2016-06-12T05:35:57","slug":"god-and-proof","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2016\/06\/12\/god-and-proof\/","title":{"rendered":"God and Proof"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino;\">This is an addendum to clarify what <a href=\"http:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/maverick_philosopher\/2016\/06\/neither-the-existence-nor-the-nonexistence-of-god-is-provable.html\">I said<\/a> two days ago.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino;\">My claim is that we have no demonstrative knowledge of the truth of theism or of the falsity of naturalism.&#0160; Demonstrative knowledge is knowledge produced by a demonstration.&#0160; A demonstration in this context is an argument that satisfies all of the following conditions:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino;\">1. It is deductive<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino;\">2. It is valid in point of logical form<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino;\">3. It is free of such informal fallacies as <em>petitio principii<\/em><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino;\">4. It is such that all its premises are true<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino;\">5. It is such that all its premises are <em>known<\/em> to be true<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino;\">6. It is such that its conclusion is relevant to its premises.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino;\">To illustrate (6).&#0160; The following argument satisfies all of the conditions except the last and is therefore probatively worthless:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino;\">Snow is white<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino;\">ergo<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino;\">Either Obama is president or he is not.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino;\">On my use of terms, a demonstrative argument = a probative argument = a proof = a rationally compelling argument.&#0160; Now clearly there are <em>good<\/em> arguments (of different sorts) that are not demonstrative, probative, rationally compelling.&#0160; One type is the strong inductive argument. By definition, no such argument satisfies (1) or (2).&#0160; A second type is the argument that satisfies all the conditions except (5).&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino;\">Can one prove the existence of God?&#0160; That is, can one produce a proof (as above defined) of the existence of God?&#0160;&#0160; I don&#39;t think so.&#0160; For how will you satisfy condition (5)?&#0160; Suppose you give argument A for the existence of God.&#0160; How do you know that the premises of A are true?&#0160; By argument?&#0160; Suppose A has premises P1, P2, P3.&#0160; Will you give arguments for these premises?&#0160; Then you need three more arguments, one for each of P1, P2, P3, each of which has its own premises.&#0160; A vicious infinite regress is in the offing.&#0160; Needless to say, moving in an argumentative circle is no better.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino;\">At some point you will have to invoke self-evidence.&#0160;&#0160; You will have to say that, e.g., it is just self-evident that every event has a cause.&#0160; And you will have to mean <em>objectively<\/em> self-evident, not just subjectively self-evident.&#0160; But how can you prove, to yourself or anyone else, that what is subjectively self-evident is <em>objectively<\/em> self-evident?&#0160; You can&#39;t, at least not with respect to states of affairs transcending your consciousness.&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino;\">Paging Baron von Muenchhausen.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino;\">I conclude that no one can prove the existence of God.&#0160; But one can reasonably believe that God exists.&#0160; The same holds for the nonexistence of God.&#0160; No one can prove the nonexistence of God.&#0160; But one can reasonably believe that there is no God.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino;\">Of course, when I say that no one can prove the existence of God I mean <em>no one of us<\/em>. &#0160;Presumably God can prove the existence of God, if he exists, not that he needs to. &#0160;And when I said above that a probative argument &#0160;is such that all its premises are known to be true, I meant, as any charitable reader would have assumed, &quot;known by us.&quot;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino;\">The same goes for naturalism.&#0160; I cannot prove that there is more to reality than the space-time system and its contents.&#0160; But I can reasonably believe it.&#0160; For I have a battery of powerful arguments each of which satisfies conditions (1), (2), (3) and (6) and may even, as far as far as I know, satisfy&#0160; (4).<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino;\">&quot;So how is the atheist not irrational on your view, assuming he is apprised of your arguments?&quot;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino;\">He is not irrational because none of my arguments are rationally compelling in the sense I supplied, namely, they are not such as to force every competent philosophical practitioner to accept their conclusions on pain of being irrational if he does not. &#0160; Surely it would be foolish to say that atheists, the lot of them, are irrational people.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino;\">Either God exists or he does not. &#0160;But both theism and atheism are rationally acceptable. &#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino;\">To end with a psychological speculation: &#0160;those who hanker after proofs of God and the soul or the opposite are insufficiently mature to live with doxastic insecurity.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino;\">Our life here below is insecure physically, psychologically, socially, economically, and in every way, including doxastically. &#0160;We need, and sometimes crave, security. &#0160;Our pursuit of it can be ordinate. &#0160;For example, the wise make provision for the future by saving and investing, taking care of their health, buying insurance, planning how they will react to certain emergencies, etc. &#0160;Fools, by contrast, live as if there is no tomorrow. &#0160;When tomorrow comes, they either perish of their folly or suffer unnecessarily.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino;\">But there is also an inordinate pursuit of security. &#0160;It is impossible in this life totally to secure oneself in any of the ways mentioned, including with respect to belief. &#0160;One &#0160;must accept that life is a venture and an adventure across the board.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is an addendum to clarify what I said two days ago. My claim is that we have no demonstrative knowledge of the truth of theism or of the falsity of naturalism.&#0160; Demonstrative knowledge is knowledge produced by a demonstration.&#0160; A demonstration in this context is an argument that satisfies all of the following conditions: &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2016\/06\/12\/god-and-proof\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;God and Proof&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[191,372,143,128],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6374","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-atheism-and-theism","category-belief","category-god","category-reason-and-rationality"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6374","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=6374"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6374\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=6374"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=6374"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=6374"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}