{"id":5979,"date":"2016-12-05T04:26:36","date_gmt":"2016-12-05T04:26:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2016\/12\/05\/forgiveness\/"},"modified":"2016-12-05T04:26:36","modified_gmt":"2016-12-05T04:26:36","slug":"forgiveness","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2016\/12\/05\/forgiveness\/","title":{"rendered":"Forgiveness"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino;\">Suppose you are father of a daughter who has been brutally raped.&#0160; The rapist is apprehended, tried, and found guilty.&#0160; Suppose further than the man convicted really is guilty as charged and pays the penalty prescribed by the law, and that the penalty is a just one (the penalty that justice demands, as I would put it). The man serves his time, is released from prison, and yet you still harbor strong negative feelings toward him. You are assailed by murderous thoughts.&#0160; You fantasize about killing him.&#0160; After all, he violated your sensitive daughter in the most demeaning way and scarred her psychologically for life, snuffing out her vibrancy and souring her on life and men.&#0160; &#0160; What the miscreant did cannot be undone no matter what punishment he endures.&#0160; But despite the negative feelings, you decide to forgive the man.&#0160; And let us further suppose that you forgive him not just&#0160;for your own peace of mind, but to restore good relations with him.&#0160; (Suppose he is an acquaintance or co-worker of yours.)<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino;\">Now if I understood what my young friend Steven was arguing a while back, his point was that this is not a genuine case of forgiveness: because the miscreant has paid his debt, there is nothing to forgive him <em>for<\/em>.&#0160; Even if you forgive him before he serves his sentence, knowing that he will serve it, you have not truly forgiven him. &#0160;Steven&#39;s thought, which he takes to be an explication of Christian forgiveness, is that true forgiveness exonerates the person forgiven: it removes the guilt and moral responsibility and with them the need for restitution and punishment.&#0160;One cannot both truly forgive and demand that justice be served. True forgiveness is such that it cannot be made conditional upon the satisfaction of the demands of justice.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino;\">I think only God could forgive in this sense.&#0160; So if this is Christian forgiveness, then I wonder whether it has any relevance to human action in this world.&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino;\">That&#39;s one concern. &#0160;Here is another, which may well rest on theological misunderstanding.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino;\">Curiously, in orthodox Christianity, God does not forgive man in the above sense: he &#39;holds his feet to the fire&#39; for the &#39;infinite&#39; offense of disobeying the infinitely perfect and good God.&#0160; Is God not a Christian?&#0160; Because the guilt man&#0160;incurs by the primal&#0160;disobedience of the first parents&#0160;is infinite, there is nothing finite man can do to set things right either individually or collectively.&#0160; 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