{"id":5546,"date":"2017-05-06T05:49:45","date_gmt":"2017-05-06T05:49:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2017\/05\/06\/once-more-on-the-bogus-aristotle-quotation\/"},"modified":"2017-05-06T05:49:45","modified_gmt":"2017-05-06T05:49:45","slug":"once-more-on-the-bogus-aristotle-quotation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2017\/05\/06\/once-more-on-the-bogus-aristotle-quotation\/","title":{"rendered":"Once More on the Bogus Aristotle &#8216;Quotation&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a class=\"asset-img-link\" href=\"http:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/.a\/6a010535ce1cf6970c01b8d27fad4b970c-pi\" style=\"float: left;\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Mark educated mind\" class=\"asset  asset-image at-xid-6a010535ce1cf6970c01b8d27fad4b970c img-responsive\" src=\"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/.a\/6a010535ce1cf6970c01b8d27fad4b970c-320wi\" style=\"margin: 0px 5px 5px 0px;\" title=\"Mark educated mind\" \/><\/a><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">The indefatigable Dave Lull delivers again. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">But first Uncle Bill&#39;s lessons for the day:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">1) Be skeptical of all unsourced quotations.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">2) Do not broadcast unsourced quotations unless you are sure they are correct.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">3) Verify the sources of sourced quotations.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">4) Correct, if you can, incorrect &#39;quotations.&#39;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">5) Do not willfully mis-attribute! &#0160;Or, like <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=GBvfiCdk-jc\">Achmed the Dead Terrorist<\/a>, I KEEL you!<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">6) Don&#39;t use &#39;quote&#39; as a noun; it is a verb.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#0160;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino;\"><span style=\"font-size: 11pt;\">Mr. Lull send us to&#0160;<\/span><a class=\"aolmail_edited-link-editor\" href=\"http:\/\/publicnoises.blogspot.com\/2009\/02\/aristotle-and-accuracy.html\" id=\"aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1494027472675_22372\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Aristotle and accuracy<\/a>&#0160;where the following comment clarifies matters:<\/span><\/p>\n<div dir=\"ltr\" id=\"aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1494027472675_21539\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/aristotle.tamu.edu\/~rasmith\/\" id=\"aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1494027472675_22677\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Robin Smith<\/a>&#0160;said&#8230;<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#0160;<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div id=\"aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1494027472675_22679\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">You are correct that this quotation, in the form that seems to be all over the Internet now, is not a quotation from Aristotle: it&#39;s not even a loose translation of&#0160;<em id=\"aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1494027472675_22680\">Nicomachean Ethics<\/em>&#0160;1094b23-25. The English translation from which it has descended is as follows (I&#39;m not sure whose this is):<\/span><br id=\"aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1494027472675_22681\" \/><br id=\"aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1494027472675_22682\" \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">&quot;It is the mark of an educated mind to rest satisfied with the degree of precision which the nature of the subject admits and not to seek exactness where only an approximation is possible.&quot;<\/span><br id=\"aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1494027472675_22683\" \/><br id=\"aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1494027472675_22684\" \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">In fact, this isn&#39;t a great translation, but at least it gets the sense right. Notice that the first eight words match the beginning of the spurious quote exactly (actually, the corresponding Greek is just two words, (<em id=\"aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1494027472675_22685\">pepaideumenou esti<\/em>), one of which (<em id=\"aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1494027472675_22686\">esti<\/em>) means &quot;it is&quot; and the other one of which (<em id=\"aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1494027472675_22687\">pepaideumenou<\/em>) is translated &quot;the mark of an educated mind&quot;. Since it&#39;s distinctive of this translation to supply &quot;mind&quot; instead of &quot;man&quot; or &quot;person&quot;, I&#39;m sure that&#39;s the source. In bouncing about the Internet, Aristotle&#39;s own quote has been transmogrified into something quite different that evidently resonates with many people. Just for the record, I am an academic in a philosophy department, I specialize in Aristotle, and I&#39;ve published translations of some of Aristotle&#39;s works. &#8211;Robin Smith<\/span><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">I believe this is the Robin Smith I met at a Plato conference back in 1980. &#0160;I am indeed blessed with, and grateful for, a good memory. &#0160;You would expect that of a Platonist, right?<\/span>&#0160;<\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\" id=\"aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1494027472675_21539\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#0160;<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The indefatigable Dave Lull delivers again. But first Uncle Bill&#39;s lessons for the day: 1) Be skeptical of all unsourced quotations. 2) Do not broadcast unsourced quotations unless you are sure they are correct. 3) Verify the sources of sourced quotations. 4) Correct, if you can, incorrect &#39;quotations.&#39; 5) Do not willfully mis-attribute! &#0160;Or, like &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2017\/05\/06\/once-more-on-the-bogus-aristotle-quotation\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Once More on the Bogus Aristotle &#8216;Quotation&#8217;&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[22,290,40],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5546","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-aristotle","category-life-of-the-mind","category-literary-matters"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5546","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5546"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5546\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5546"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5546"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5546"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}