{"id":5402,"date":"2017-06-24T16:38:21","date_gmt":"2017-06-24T16:38:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2017\/06\/24\/votes-by-non-citizens-may-have-cost-trump-the-2016-popular-vote\/"},"modified":"2017-06-24T16:38:21","modified_gmt":"2017-06-24T16:38:21","slug":"votes-by-non-citizens-may-have-cost-trump-the-2016-popular-vote","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2017\/06\/24\/votes-by-non-citizens-may-have-cost-trump-the-2016-popular-vote\/","title":{"rendered":"Votes by Non-Citizens May Have Cost Trump the 2016 Popular Vote"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">On 10 December of last year in an entry entitled <a href=\"http:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/maverick_philosopher\/2016\/12\/post-truth.html\">&#39;Post-Truth&#39;<\/a> I wrote the following:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">For the Left, Donald Trump is the prime post-truther, the post-truth poster boy if you will, the <em>prima Donald<\/em> of the practice of post-truth. Ruth Marcus of the Washington Post <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/opinions\/welcome-to-the-post-truth-presidency\/2016\/12\/02\/baaf630a-b8cd-11e6-b994-f45a208f7a73_story.html?utm_term=.db22ac5f55a8\">doesn&#39;t expect<\/a> him to truth up anytime soon. &quot;Indeed, all signs are to the contrary \u2014 most glaringly Trump\u2019s chock-full-\u00adof-\u00adlies tweet that &#39;I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally.&#39; &quot;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">A very stupid example, Ms. Marcus! &#0160;There is not even one lie in the tweet, let alone a bunch of them. &#0160;Although verifiable in principle, Trump&#39;s tweet is unverifiable in practice. &#0160;Trump had no solid evidence for the truth of his assertion. &#0160;Still, it could be true. &#0160;Don&#39;t forget the &#39;necro-vote&#39; (a word I just coined) and the illegal vote. Trump&#39;s epistemic &#39;sin&#39; was not that he stated what is not the case with the intention to deceive but that he confidently asserted something for which he had insufficient evidence. &#0160;He pretended to know something he could not know. &#0160;Very annoying, and possibly a violation of a <a href=\"https:\/\/philosophynow.org\/issues\/77\/W_K_Clifford_and_The_Ethics_of_Belief_by_Tim_Madigan\">Cliffordian<\/a> ethics of belief, but not a lie. &#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">So he didn&#39;t lie. &#0160;What he did was close to what Harry Frankfurt defines as bullshitting in <em>On Bullshit<\/em>, a piece of close analysis, fine, not feculent, that was undoubtedly more often purchased than perused. The bullshitter&#0160;doesn&#39;t care how things stand with reality. The liar, by contrast, must care: he must know (or at least attempt to know) how things are if he is to have any chance of deceiving his audience.&#0160; Think of it this way: the bullshitter doesn&#39;t care whether he gets things right or gets them wrong; the liar cares to get them right so he can deceive you about them.&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">So you could fairly tax Trump in this instance with bullshitting. &#0160;He shot his mouth off in a self-serving way without much concern over whether what he said is true. &#0160;But why pick on Trump?<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">Because you are a leftist and thus a purveyor of double standards.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">Obama bullshits with the best of them. &#0160;A prime example was his <a href=\"http:\/\/www.weeklystandard.com\/obama-99.9-of-muslims-reject-radical-islam\/article\/836303\">outrageous claim<\/a>&#0160;that 99.9% of Muslims reject radical Islam. It is false and known to be false. (You can check with PEW research if you care to.) &#0160; Now was Obama lying in this instance or bullshitting? A lie is not the same thing as a false statement. &#0160;Let us be perhaps excessively charitable: Obama made a false statement but he had no intention of deceiving us because he did not know the truth. &#0160;(Compare: G. W. Bush was wrong about the presence of WMDs in Iraq, but he did not lie about them: &#0160;he was basing himself on the best intelligence sources he had at the time.)<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">But that Obama is pretty clearly bullshitting is shown by the cliched and falsely precise 99.9% figure. &#0160;The whole context shows that Obama doesn&#39;t care whether what he is saying is true. &#0160;He said it because it fits his narrative: Islam is a religion of peace; we are not in a religious war with Islam; Muslims want all the same things we want, blah, blah, <em>ad nauseam<\/em>. &#0160;The difference between this case and the Trump tweet is that we know that Obama was wrong, whereas we don&#39;t know that Trump was wrong.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">So once again we have a double standard. &#0160;Trump is &#39;post-truth&#39;; but Obama and Hillary are not?<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">So that&#39;s what I said back in December. But now we have <a href=\"http:\/\/www.investors.com\/politics\/editorials\/did-votes-by-noncitizens-cost-trump-the-2016-popular-vote-sure-looks-that-way\/\">evidence <\/a>that Trump was right:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">We don&#39;t know the exact number of illegal votes. No one does. But the data that are available suggest that the number of illegal votes was substantial&#0160;\u2014 probably in the millions, as Trump said&#0160;\u2014 and likely had a significant impact on the election&#39;s outcome.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">Even Democrats should find this troubling; every vote cast by a noncitizen voter negates the vote of a citizen voter. It&#39;s that simple. It&#39;s time the Democratic Party started living up to its name and stop encouraging noncitizens and illegal aliens to vote in our election.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">But of course the Democrats will not live up to their name, being elitists and globalists; and of course they are not troubled by the votes of non-citizens. The best proof of this is their opposition to photo ID at polling places. Their intention is transparent: to win by any means, legal or illegal.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\"> <a class=\"asset-img-link\" href=\"http:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/.a\/6a010535ce1cf6970c01b7c9058bf2970b-pi\" style=\"display: inline;\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Mexican vote\" class=\"asset  asset-image at-xid-6a010535ce1cf6970c01b7c9058bf2970b img-responsive\" src=\"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/.a\/6a010535ce1cf6970c01b7c9058bf2970b-500wi\" title=\"Mexican vote\" \/><\/a><br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&#0160;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>On 10 December of last year in an entry entitled &#39;Post-Truth&#39; I wrote the following: For the Left, Donald Trump is the prime post-truther, the post-truth poster boy if you will, the prima Donald of the practice of post-truth. Ruth Marcus of the Washington Post doesn&#39;t expect him to truth up anytime soon. &quot;Indeed, all &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2017\/06\/24\/votes-by-non-citizens-may-have-cost-trump-the-2016-popular-vote\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Votes by Non-Citizens May Have Cost Trump the 2016 Popular Vote&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[56],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5402","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5402","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5402"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5402\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5402"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5402"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5402"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}