{"id":5377,"date":"2017-08-01T10:05:24","date_gmt":"2017-08-01T10:05:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2017\/08\/01\/disagreement-in-philosophy-notes-on-jiri-fuchs-2\/"},"modified":"2017-08-01T10:05:24","modified_gmt":"2017-08-01T10:05:24","slug":"disagreement-in-philosophy-notes-on-jiri-fuchs-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2017\/08\/01\/disagreement-in-philosophy-notes-on-jiri-fuchs-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Disagreement in Philosophy: Notes on Ji\u0159\u00ed Fuchs"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a class=\"asset-img-link\" href=\"http:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/.a\/6a010535ce1cf6970c01b8d299bb3e970c-pi\" style=\"float: left;\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"J Fuchs\" class=\"asset  asset-image at-xid-6a010535ce1cf6970c01b8d299bb3e970c img-responsive\" src=\"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/.a\/6a010535ce1cf6970c01b8d299bb3e970c-320wi\" style=\"margin: 0px 5px 5px 0px;\" title=\"J Fuchs\" \/><\/a><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">That philosophers disagree is a fact about which there is little disagreement, even among philosophers. But what this widespread and deep disagreement signifies is a topic of major disagreement. One issue is whether or not the fact of disagreement supplies a good reason to doubt the possibility of philosophical knowledge. &#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">The contemporary Czech philosopher Ji\u0159\u00ed Fuchs begins his book&#0160;<em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.editiones-scholasticae.de\/index.php?page=shop.product_details&amp;category_id=31&amp;flypage=flypage.tpl&amp;product_id=416&amp;option=com_virtuemart&amp;Itemid=1\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Illusions of Sceptics<\/a>&#0160;<\/em>(2016) by considering this question. &#0160;He grants that the &quot;cognitive potential of philosophy&quot; is called into question by the &quot;embarrassing fact that there is not a single thing that philosophers would agree on.&quot; (13) Nevertheless, Fuchs insists that we have no good reason to be skeptical about the possibility of philosophical knowledge. His view is that &quot;<span style=\"text-align: justify;\">Discord among philosophers can . . . be sufficiently explained by the frequent prejudices of philosophers . . . Consequently, the existence of discord among philosophers does not imply that their work is of fundamentally unscientific character.&quot; (16)<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"text-align: justify; font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">Besides the prejudices of philosophers, the lack of consensus among philosophers may also be attributed to philosophy&#39;s difficulty: &quot;the discord may just be a consequence of the specific challenging character of philosophy.&quot;(19)<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"text-align: justify; font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">Fuchs maintains that &quot;consensus has no relation to the core of scientific quality. . . .&quot; (24). The core of scientific quality is constituted by &quot;proof or demonstration.&quot; (24) &#0160;His claim is that interminable and widespread disagreement or lack of consensus has no tendency to show that philosophy is incapable of achieving genuine knowledge, where such knowledge involves apodictic insight into the truth of some philosophical propositions.&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"text-align: justify; font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">There are two main issues we need to discuss. One concerns the relation of <em>consensus and truth<\/em>; the other the relation of <em>consensus and knowledge<\/em>. My impression is that Fuchs conflates the two issues. I will argue, contra Fuchs, that while it is obvious that consensus and truth are logically independent, logical independence is not obvious, and is arguably absent, in the case of consensus and knowledge. &#0160;My view, tentatively held, is that the lack of consensus in philosophy does tend to undermine philosophy&#39;s claim to be knowledge.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\"><strong><span style=\"text-align: justify;\">Consensus and Truth<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">I maintain, and Fuchs will agree, that the following propositions are true if not platitudinous.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"text-align: justify; font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">1) <em>Truth does not entail consensus<\/em>. If a proposition is true, it is true whether or not there is consensus with respect to its truth.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"text-align: justify; font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">2) <em>Consensus does not entail truth<\/em>. If most or all experts agree that <em>p<\/em>, it does not follow that <em>p<\/em> is true.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"text-align: justify; font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">3) <em>Consensus and truth are logically independent<\/em>. This follows from (1) in conjunction with (2). One can have truth without consensus and consensus without truth.&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"text-align: justify; font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">Lack of consensus, therefore, does not demonstrate lack of truth. Even if no philosophical proposition wins the agreement of a majority of competent practitioners, it is possible that some such propositions are true. &#0160;But it doesn&#39;t follow that some philosophical propositions have &#39;scientific quality.&#39; &#0160;To have this quality they have to be true, but they also have to be knowable by us. &#0160;But what is knowability and how does it relate to consensus? To answer this question we must first clarify some other notions.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\"><strong><span style=\"text-align: justify;\">Truth, Knowledge, Knowability, Cognitivity, Justification, and Certainty<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"text-align: justify; font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">I add to our growing list the following &#0160;propositions, perhaps not all platitudinous and not all agreeable to Fuchs:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"text-align: justify; font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">4) <em>Knowledge entails truth<\/em>. If S knows that p, it follows that p is true. There is no false knowledge. There are false beliefs, and indeed false <em>justified<\/em> beliefs; but there is no false knowledge. You could think of this as an analytic\/conceptual truth, or as a truth about the essence of knowledge.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"text-align: justify; font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">5) <em>Truth does not entail knowledge<\/em>. If <em>p<\/em> is true, it does not follow that someone (some finite mind or ectypal intellect) knows that <em>p<\/em>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"text-align: justify; font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">6) <em>Truth does not entail knowability by us<\/em>. If, for any proposition <em>p<\/em>, &#0160;<em>p<\/em> is true, it does not follow that there is any finite subject S such that S has the power to know <em>p<\/em>. There may be truths which, though knowable &#39;in principle,&#39; or knowable by the archetypal intellect, are not knowable by us.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">7) <em>Cognitivity does not entail knowability<\/em>. Let us say that a proposition is <em>cognitive<\/em> just in case it has a truth value. Assuming bivalence, a proposition is cognitive if and only if it is either true, or if not true, then false. &#0160;Clearly, cognitivity is insufficient for knowability. For if a proposition is false, then it is cognitive but cannot be known because it is false. And if a proposition is true, then it is cognitive but may not be knowable because beyond our ken.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">8) <em>Knowledge entails justification<\/em>. If S believes that p, and p is true, it does not follow that S knows that p. &#0160;For knowledge, justification is also required. This is a bit of epistemological boilerplate that dates back to Plato&#39;s <em>Theaetetus<\/em>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">9) <em>Knowledge entails objective certainty<\/em>. &#0160;Knowledge implies the sure possession of the object of knowledge; if the subject is uncertain, then the subject does not have knowledge strictly speaking.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\"><strong>Consensus and Knowledge<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">Fuchs and I will agree that consensus is not necessary for <em>truth<\/em>: a true proposition need not be one that enjoys the consensus of experts. But consensus may well be necessary for <em>knowledge<\/em>. &#0160;Fuchs, however, seems to conflate truth and certainty, and thus truth with knowledge. &#0160;A truth can be true without being known by us; indeed, without even being knowable by us. But, necessarily, whatever is known is true. &#0160;On p. 30 we read:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">By denying that the thought processes of philosophers can exhibit a scientific quality simply because of the existence of discord among philosophers, we make consensus a necessary condition for the<em> general validity and potential certainty<\/em> of scientific knowledge, which is the attribute of science. (Emphasis added.)<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">On the following page we find the same thought but with a replacement of &#39;potential certainty&#39; by &#39;certainty&#39;:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">. . . the necessary question of whether the consensus of experts is really such an essential and indispensable condition for the <em>certainty and general validity<\/em>&#0160;of scientific knowledge. (31, emphasis added.)<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">When one speaks of the validity of a proposition, one means its truth. (&#39;Valid&#39; as a <em>terminus technicus<\/em> in formal logic is not in play here.) So it seems clear that Fuchs is maintaining that consensus is necessary neither for the truth of propositions nor for their certainty. &#0160;He seems to be maintaining that one can have certain knowledge of a proposition even if the consensus of experts goes against one. This is not obvious. Why not?<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">Knowledge requires justification. Now suppose I accept the proposition that God exists and that my justification takes the form of various arguments for the existence of God. &#0160; Those arguments will be faulted by an army of competent practitioners, not all of them atheists, on a variety of grounds. What&#39;s more, the members of the atheist divisions will marshal their own positive arguments, in first place arguments from evil. Now if just one of my theistic arguments is sound, then God exists. But I do not, by giving a sound argument for God, know that God exists unless I know that the argument I have given is sound. &#0160;(A sound argument is a valid deductive argument all of the premises of which are true.) But how do I know that even one of my theistic arguments is sound? How can I legitimately claim to know that when a chorus of my epistemic peers rises up against me? &#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">If what I maintain is true, then it is true no matter how many epistemic peers oppose me: they are just wrong! Truth is absolute: it is not sensitive to the vagaries of agreement and disagreement. Justification, however, is sensitive to agreement and disagreement. Or so it seems to me. &#0160;My justification for considering a certain argument sound is undermined by your disagreement assuming that we are both competent in the subject matter of the argument and we are epistemic peers. &#0160;You may disagree with what I just wrote, and thus disagree with me about the implications of disagreement, but you ought to grant that I am raising a very serious question here. (If you don&#39;t grant that, then you get the boot!)<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">In a situation in which my justification for believing that <em>p<\/em> is undermined by the disagreement of competent peers, there is no certainty that <em>p<\/em>. If knowledge logically requires certainty, and certainty is destroyed by the disagreement of competent peers, then I can no longer legitimately claim to <em>know<\/em> that p. So, while truth has nothing to fear from lack of agreement, knowledge does. For knowledge requires justification, and justification can be augmented or diminished by agreement or disagreement, respectively.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 11pt;\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino;\">Interim Conclusion<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 11pt;\">Fuchs makes things too easy for himself by conflating truth and knowledge. We can agree that consensus is logically irrelevant to truth. &#0160;Protracted disagreement by the best and the brightest over the truth value of p has no tendency to show either deductively or inductively that p is not either true or false. Truth is absolute and thus insulated from the vagaries of opinion. But truths (true propositions) do not do us any good unless we can know them. &#0160;It is not enough to know that some truths are known; what we need is to know of a given truth that it is true. But disagreement inserts a skeptical blade between the truth and our knowledge of it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14.6667px;\">Disagreement in philosophy undermines her claims to knowledge. &#0160;As I see it, Fuchs has done nothing to undermine this undermining.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<fieldset class=\"zemanta-related\">\n<legend class=\"zemanta-related-title\">Related articles<\/legend>\n<div class=\"zemanta-article-ul zemanta-article-ul-image\" style=\"margin: 0; padding: 0; overflow: hidden;\">\n<div class=\"zemanta-article-ul-li-image zemanta-article-ul-li\" style=\"padding: 0; background: none; list-style: none; display: block; float: left; vertical-align: top; text-align: left; width: 84px; font-size: 11px; margin: 2px 10px 10px 2px;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/maverick_philosopher\/2015\/07\/why-write.html\" rel=\"noopener\" style=\"box-shadow: 0px 0px 4px #999; padding: 2px; display: block; border-radius: 2px; text-decoration: none;\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i.zemanta.com\/353206994_80_80.jpg\" style=\"padding: 0; margin: 0; border: 0; display: block; width: 80px; max-width: 100%;\" \/><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/maverick_philosopher\/2015\/07\/why-write.html\" rel=\"noopener\" style=\"display: block; overflow: hidden; text-decoration: none; line-height: 12pt; height: 80px; padding: 5px 2px 0 2px;\" target=\"_blank\">Why Write?<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/fieldset>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>That philosophers disagree is a fact about which there is little disagreement, even among philosophers. 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