{"id":373,"date":"2024-12-25T11:49:16","date_gmt":"2024-12-25T11:49:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2024\/12\/25\/the-one-man-who-pre-exists-his-birth\/"},"modified":"2024-12-25T11:49:16","modified_gmt":"2024-12-25T11:49:16","slug":"the-one-man-who-pre-exists-his-birth","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2024\/12\/25\/the-one-man-who-pre-exists-his-birth\/","title":{"rendered":"The One Man Who Pre-Exists his Birth"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 14pt;\">Christianity is curiously Platonistic about Christ: he is the one man who pre-exists his conception and birth. &quot;Before Abraham was, I am.&quot;&#0160; (John 8:58) But no such Platonism about any other human, not even Mary, <em>Theotokos<\/em> (God-bearer).<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 14pt;\">If, as Chalcedonian orthodoxy has it, Jesus Christ is fully man and fully God, then he is man and a man.&#0160; (There is a riddle here respecting&#0160; man and a man, both in Christ and in Adam, which I won&#39;t pursue here.)<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 14pt;\">What tense is the &#39;exists&#39; in &#39;pre-exists&#39; and the &#39;am&#39; in the Johannine verse?&#0160; What should we call it? The eternally present tense?<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Christianity is curiously Platonistic about Christ: he is the one man who pre-exists his conception and birth. &quot;Before Abraham was, I am.&quot;&#0160; (John 8:58) But no such Platonism about any other human, not even Mary, Theotokos (God-bearer). If, as Chalcedonian orthodoxy has it, Jesus Christ is fully man and fully God, then he is man &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2024\/12\/25\/the-one-man-who-pre-exists-his-birth\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;The One Man Who Pre-Exists his Birth&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[82,286,63,257],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-373","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-christology","category-theo-logical-speculation","category-theology","category-time-and-eternity"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/373","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=373"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/373\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=373"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=373"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=373"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}