{"id":317,"date":"2025-01-29T15:23:30","date_gmt":"2025-01-29T15:23:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2025\/01\/29\/how-christian-is-the-doctrine-of-hell\/"},"modified":"2025-01-29T15:23:30","modified_gmt":"2025-01-29T15:23:30","slug":"how-christian-is-the-doctrine-of-hell","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2025\/01\/29\/how-christian-is-the-doctrine-of-hell\/","title":{"rendered":"How Christian is the Doctrine of Hell?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 14pt;\">The traditional doctrine of hell appears to be a consequence of two assumptions, the first&#0160; of which is arguably unbiblical. <\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 14pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Geddes MacGregor: &quot;. . . the doctrine of hell, with its attendant horrors, is intended as the logical development of the notion that, since man is intrinsically immortal, and some men turn out badly, they cannot enjoy the presence of God.&quot; (<em>Reincarnation in Christianity<\/em>, Quest Books, 1978, 121)<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 14pt;\">1) We are naturally, and intrinsically, immortal.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 14pt;\">2) Some of us, by our evil behavior, have freely and forever excluded&#0160; ourselves from the divine presence. <\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">MacGregor: &quot;Having permanently deprived themselves of the capacity to enjoy that presence [the presence of God] , they must forever endure the sense of its loss, the <em>poena damni<\/em>, as the medieval theologians called it.&quot; (Ibid.)<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 14pt;\">Therefore<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 14pt;\">3) There must be some state or condition, some &#39;place,&#39; for these immortal souls, and that &#39;place&#39; is hell. They will remain there either for all eternity or else everlastingly.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 14pt;\">According to MacGregor, premise (1) is false because it has no foundation in biblical teaching. (Ibid.) St. Paul, says MacGregor, subscribes to <em>conditional immortality<\/em>.&#0160; This is &quot;immortality that is dependent on one&#39;s being &#39;raised up&#39; to victory over death through the resurrection of Christ.&quot; (op. cit., 119)&#0160; &#0160;It follows that the medieval doctrine of hell&#0160; is un-Christian.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 14pt;\">The choice we face is not between heaven and hell but between heaven and utter extinction which, for MacGregor, is <em>worse<\/em> than everlasting torment.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 14pt;\">Two issues: Would extinction of the&#0160; person be worse than everlasting torment? That is not my sense of things. I would prefer extinction, for Epicurean reasons. The other issue is whether the Pauline texts and the rest of the Bible support conditional immortality.&#0160; I have no fixed opinion on that question.&#0160;&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The traditional doctrine of hell appears to be a consequence of two assumptions, the first&#0160; of which is arguably unbiblical. Geddes MacGregor: &quot;. . . the doctrine of hell, with its attendant horrors, is intended as the logical development of the notion that, since man is intrinsically immortal, and some men turn out badly, they &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2025\/01\/29\/how-christian-is-the-doctrine-of-hell\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;How Christian is the Doctrine of Hell?&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[58,38,166,63],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-317","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-christian-doctrine","category-heaven-and-hell","category-new-testament","category-theology"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/317","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=317"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/317\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=317"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=317"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=317"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}