{"id":3152,"date":"2020-05-06T05:11:58","date_gmt":"2020-05-06T05:11:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2020\/05\/06\/the-temporal-the-atemporal-and-the-tenseless\/"},"modified":"2020-05-06T05:11:58","modified_gmt":"2020-05-06T05:11:58","slug":"the-temporal-the-atemporal-and-the-tenseless","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2020\/05\/06\/the-temporal-the-atemporal-and-the-tenseless\/","title":{"rendered":"The Temporal, the Atemporal, and the Tenseless"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">1) Divide all entities into two mutually exclusive and jointly exhaustive classes, the temporal and the atemporal. Temporal entities are &#39;in time,&#39; while atemporal entities are not &#39;in time.&#39; <em>Caesar&#39;s crossing the Rubicon<\/em> is in time; <em>7&#39;s being prime<\/em> is not in time.&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">2) Here are some temporal words: past, present, future, before, after, later, earlier, simultaneous.&#0160; We can define &#39;in time&#39; as follows.&#0160; An item is in time iff a temporal word can be meaningfully predicated of it. Otherwise it is not in time. My definition is circular, but innocuously so. It is like the following which is also circular: X is possible =df X exists in at least one possible world.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">&quot;But doesn&#39;t 6 come <em>after<\/em> 5?&quot; Yes in the normal order of counting. Counting, however, is a temporal process. The numbers themselves are not in time.&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">&quot;If a thing changes, then it is in time. The number 9 changed from being Tom&#39;s favorite number to being Tom&#39;s second favorite number. So numbers are in time.&quot;&#0160; But that&#39;s a mere Cambridge change; it doesn&#39;t count.&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">3) Atemporal entities tenselessly exist and tenselessly have properties.&#0160; Everything timeless is tenseless.&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">4) But can a temporal item tenselessly exist? This is the question we need to discuss. Mr Brightly in an earlier thread says No. Caesar is a wholly past individual, and obviously to be classified as temporal rather an atemporal. On Brightly&#39;s presentism, JC existed, but is now nothing. We of course agree that JC is no longer temporally present. He is a wholly past individual.&#0160; But I maintain that there is a sense in which he exists nonetheless.&#0160; I gave an argument earlier in response to Brightly.&#0160; Here is a new one.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">ARGUMENT FROM THE UNIVOCITY OF &#39;EXIST(S)&#39;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">a) Both temporal and atemporal items exist.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">b) Whatever exists exists in the same sense and in the same way: there are no different modes of existence such that timeless items exist in one way and time-bound items in another. &#39;Exist(s)&#39; is univocal across all applications.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">c) Atemporal items exist tenselessly.&#0160; Therefore:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">d) Temporal items exist tenselessly. Therefore:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">e) Julius Caesar and all wholly past items exist tenselessly despite being wholly past.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">COMMENT<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">The main idea is that existence, by its very nature, is tenseless.&#0160; To exist is to exist tenselessly.&#0160; If so, then pastness, presentness, and futurity are purely temporal properties which, by themselves, imply nothing about existence. It follows that existence cannot be identified with temporal presentness.&#0160; Accordingly:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">Dinosaurs existed but do not still exist just in case dinosaurs exist (tenselessly) AND they are wholly past.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">Horses exist (present-tense) just in case horses exist (tenselessly) AND some of them are present.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">Martian colonies will exist just in case Martian colonies exist (tenselessly) AND they are wholly future.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">The idea is that existence is time-independent. <em>When<\/em> a thing exists has no bearing on <em>whether<\/em> it exists.&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">Think of a spotlight that successively illuminates events in McTaggart&#39;s B-series (events ordered by the B-relations, i.e., earlier than, later than, simultaneous with.)&#0160; The events and the times at which they occur are all equally real, equally existent, and their existence is tenseless.&#0160; An illuminated event is a temporally present event.&#0160; So the spotlight once shone on the event of my birth rendering it present. But the spotlight moved on such that my birth became wholly past, but not nonexistent.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">UPSHOT<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">I am not endorsing the above argument, nor am I endorsing the Spotlight Theory of Time.&#0160; My point against Brightly is that there is no contradiction in thinking of a temporal item as tenselessly existing.&#0160; The trick is to realize that existence needn&#39;t be thought of as time-dependent &#8212; even in the case of items in time.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>1) Divide all entities into two mutually exclusive and jointly exhaustive classes, the temporal and the atemporal. Temporal entities are &#39;in time,&#39; while atemporal entities are not &#39;in time.&#39; Caesar&#39;s crossing the Rubicon is in time; 7&#39;s being prime is not in time.&#0160; 2) Here are some temporal words: past, present, future, before, after, later, &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2020\/05\/06\/the-temporal-the-atemporal-and-the-tenseless\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;The Temporal, the Atemporal, and the Tenseless&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3152","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3152","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3152"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3152\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3152"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3152"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3152"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}