{"id":2833,"date":"2020-11-08T15:38:42","date_gmt":"2020-11-08T15:38:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2020\/11\/08\/first-and-second-intentions-buckner-on-zabarella-kant-frege-and-wittgenstein\/"},"modified":"2020-11-08T15:38:42","modified_gmt":"2020-11-08T15:38:42","slug":"first-and-second-intentions-buckner-on-zabarella-kant-frege-and-wittgenstein","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2020\/11\/08\/first-and-second-intentions-buckner-on-zabarella-kant-frege-and-wittgenstein\/","title":{"rendered":"First and Second Intentions: Buckner on Zabarella, Kant, Frege, and Wittgenstein"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"kvgmc6g5 cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x c1et5uql ii04i59q\">\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: start;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">The following two quotations are from the Facebook Medieval Logic forum.<\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: start;\">&#0160;<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/zabarella\/\">Giacomo Zabarella<\/a> (1533 \u2013 1589). \u201cNow first intentions are names immediately signifying realities by means of a concept in the soul, for instance, animal and human being, or those concepts of which these names are signs. But second intentions are other names imposed on these names, for instance, genus, species, name, verb, proposition, syllogism, and others of that sort, or the concepts themselves that are signified through these names.\u201d<\/span><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"o9v6fnle cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x c1et5uql ii04i59q\">\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: start;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\"> Edward Buckner comments:<\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: start;\">&#0160;<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">The distinction [between first and second intentions] is rediscovered in various ways by subsequent philosophers. I see something like it in Kant\u2019s distinction between concepts which are \u2018pure\u2019, and concepts which are not, in Frege\u2019s distinction between concept and object words, and possibly in Wittgenstein, who viewed logic as a sort of scaffolding through which we conceive the world, a scaffolding which cannot be described in words. (4121 \u201cPropositions cannot represent logical form: it is mirrored in them\u201d). If I understand Wittgenstein, it is that there can be no science of second intentions in Zabarella\u2019s sense, for such a science would be a futile attempt to represent logical form. The Tractatus of course is such an attempt, which is why he says (654) his propositions, while nonsensical, can be used as steps [in a ladder] to climb up beyond them, then throw away the ladder.<\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#0160;<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">Kant<\/span><\/strong><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#0160;<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">I think Ed is wrong above about Kant.&#0160; For Kant, the pure is the opposite of the empirical. Every concept is either pure or empirical and no concept is both. A pure concept is one that is not drawn from experience, <em>ein solcher der nicht von der Erfahrung abgezogen ist<\/em>, but originates from the understanding in respect of both form and content, <em>sondern auch dem Inhalte nach aus dem Verstande entspringt<\/em>. The form of all concepts, including pure concepts, arises from reflexion <em>Reflexion, <\/em>and thus from the understanding. <\/span><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">Empirical concepts arise from the senses, <em>entspringen aus den Sinnen<\/em>,&#0160; by comparison of the objects of experience. Their content comes from the senses, and their form of universality, <em>Form der Allgemeinheit<\/em>, alone from the understanding.<br \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#0160;<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">If Buckner is telling us that Kant&#39;s pure-empirical distinction runs parallel to Zabarella&#39;s first intention-second intention distinction, then that can&#39;t be right. For Zabarella&#39;s <em>animal<\/em> and <em>human being<\/em>, which are first intentions for him, count as empirical concepts for Kant.&#0160; <br \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#0160;<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">Any comparison of Zabarella (1533-1589) the Aristotelian and Kant is bound to be fraught with difficulty because of the transcendental-subjective turn of modern philosophy commencing with Descartes (1596-1650).&#0160; For Aristotle, the categories are categories of a real world independent of&#0160; our understanding; for Kant, the categories are precisely categories of the understanding (<em>Verstandeskategorien<\/em>) grounded in the understanding both in their form and in their content.&#0160; The categories of Aristotle are thus objective, categories belonging to a world to be understood, and not subjective, categories whereby a mind understands the world.<br \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#0160;<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">Pure Concepts of Reason as Limit Concepts<\/span><\/em><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#0160;<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">Kant also speaks in his Logic and elsewhere of Ideas which are pure concepts of reason, <em>Vernunft<\/em>, and not of understanding, <em>Verstand<\/em>. <em>Die Idee ist ein Vernunftbegriff deren Gegenstand gar nicht in der Erfahrug kann angetroffen werden. <\/em>(<em>Logik<\/em>, sec. 3)&#0160; The objects of these pure concepts of reason cannot be known by us because our form of intuition, <em>Anschauung<\/em>, is sensible, not intellectual. We can know only phenomena, not noumena. Among these Ideas, which are plainly limit concepts, are God, the soul, the world-whole, and freedom. And they are not merely negative limit concepts. Free will, for example, is objectively real despite its not being obejctively knowable. But more on this later.<br \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#0160;<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\"><strong>Frege<\/strong><\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#0160;<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">I also think Ed is wrong about Frege.&#0160; But I&#39;ll leave that for later. Wifey wants to go out to dinner. Philosophy before bread, but happy wife, happy life!<br \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#0160;<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">As for Wittgenstein, I think Ed is on the right track.&#0160; <br \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#0160;<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#0160;<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The following two quotations are from the Facebook Medieval Logic forum. &#0160; Giacomo Zabarella (1533 \u2013 1589). \u201cNow first intentions are names immediately signifying realities by means of a concept in the soul, for instance, animal and human being, or those concepts of which these names are signs. But second intentions are other names imposed &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2020\/11\/08\/first-and-second-intentions-buckner-on-zabarella-kant-frege-and-wittgenstein\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;First and Second Intentions: Buckner on Zabarella, Kant, Frege, and Wittgenstein&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[270,108,593],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2833","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-kant","category-logica-docens","category-zabarella"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2833","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2833"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2833\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2833"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2833"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2833"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}