{"id":254,"date":"2025-03-15T05:35:55","date_gmt":"2025-03-15T05:35:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2025\/03\/15\/notes-on-r-c-sproul-does-god-exist-part-ii\/"},"modified":"2025-03-15T05:35:55","modified_gmt":"2025-03-15T05:35:55","slug":"notes-on-r-c-sproul-does-god-exist-part-ii","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2025\/03\/15\/notes-on-r-c-sproul-does-god-exist-part-ii\/","title":{"rendered":"Notes on R. C. Sproul, <i>Does God Exist?<\/i> Part II"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 14pt;\">Part I is <a href=\"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/maverick_philosopher\/2025\/02\/notes-on-r-c-sproul-does-god-exist-.html\">here<\/a>. Sproul thinks he can prove that the God of the Christian Bible exists from reason alone.&#0160; By &#39;prove&#39; he means establish with objective certainty.&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 14pt;\">He begins by listing four possible explanations of reality as we encounter it.&#0160; I take him to mean by &#39;reality&#39; the world as given to the senses.<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 14pt;\">1) Reality is an illusion.<br \/>2) Reality creates itself.<br \/>3) Reality is self-existent.<br \/>4) Reality is created by something distinct from it that is self-existent, God.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 14pt;\">Sproul considers these the only four possibilities. His strategy is to refute the first three, thereby establishing (4). Pressed for time, I will be brief.&#0160; I will simply dismiss (1) as beneath refutation. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 14pt;\">As for (2), nothing can create itself, if &#39;x creates x&#39; means <em>x causes x to exist<\/em>. Why not? Well, for anything to do any causing it must already exist.&#0160; &#39;Already&#39; can be taken either logically or temporally or both. But nothing is or can be either temporally or logically prior to itself.&#0160; It is therefore impossible that anything create itself.&#0160; It is a necessarily true law of <em>metaphysica generalis<\/em> that nothing can create itself.&#0160;&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 14pt;\">But isn&#39;t God classically characterized as <em>causa sui<\/em>? He is indeed. But what that means is not that he causes himself to exist, but that he is not caused by another to exist. As I like to put it, the sense of <em>causa sui<\/em> is privative, not positive. It is built into the very concept <em>God<\/em> that God would not be God if he were caused by another to exist; that is not to say, however, that he causes himself to exist. To say that God is <em>causa sui<\/em> is equivalent to saying that he exists of metaphysical necessity.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 14pt;\">By the way, don&#39;t confuse the concept <em>God<\/em> with God. That would be like confusing the concept <em>chair<\/em> with what you are presumably now sitting on.&#0160; Are you sitting on a concept?<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 14pt;\">As for (3), this pantheistic possibility is worth consideration, but I must move on. The idea is that Reality does not cause itself to exist, nor does it just happen to exist; it necessarily exists.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 14pt;\">Sproul affirms (4) and he thinks he can prove it beyond the shadow of a doubt. By &#39;reality,&#39; he means &quot;reality as we encounter it.&quot; (p. 9)&#0160; That includes mainly, if not wholly, the people and things disclosed by inner and outer sense experience.&#0160;&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 14pt;\">But are those four the only (epistemic) possibilities? Why couldn&#39;t the reality we encounter just exist as a <em>factum brutum<\/em>, a brute fact?&#0160; By &#39;brute fact&#39; I mean an obtaining or existing state of affairs that exists without cause or reason.&#0160;&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 14pt;\">Sproul needs to explain why the cosmos, physical world, nature cannot just exist. Why <em>must<\/em> it have an efficient cause or a reason\/purpose (final cause)?&#0160; Why can&#39;t its existence&#0160; be a brute fact?&#0160; That is a (fifth) epistemic possibility he does not, as far as I can see, consider.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Part I is here. Sproul thinks he can prove that the God of the Christian Bible exists from reason alone.&#0160; By &#39;prove&#39; he means establish with objective certainty.&#0160; He begins by listing four possible explanations of reality as we encounter it.&#0160; I take him to mean by &#39;reality&#39; the world as given to the senses. &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2025\/03\/15\/notes-on-r-c-sproul-does-god-exist-part-ii\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Notes on R. C. Sproul, <i>Does God Exist?<\/i> Part II&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[191,58,143],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-254","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-atheism-and-theism","category-christian-doctrine","category-god"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/254","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=254"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/254\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=254"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=254"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=254"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}