{"id":2493,"date":"2021-08-12T18:36:23","date_gmt":"2021-08-12T18:36:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2021\/08\/12\/back-to-the-intentionalityreference-discussion\/"},"modified":"2021-08-12T18:36:23","modified_gmt":"2021-08-12T18:36:23","slug":"back-to-the-intentionalityreference-discussion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2021\/08\/12\/back-to-the-intentionalityreference-discussion\/","title":{"rendered":"Back to the Intentionality\/Reference Discussion"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">Returning to the <a href=\"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/maverick_philosopher\/2021\/08\/the-third-way-of-the-ostrich.html#comments\">ongoing thread<\/a>:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">So to summarise the discussion so far. The doctrine of&#0160;<em>Reference and Identity<\/em>&#0160;is that empty names can refer. That is because the verb phrase \u2018refers to\u2019 is&#0160;<em>intentional<\/em>. That is, \u201cS refers to N\u201d is consistent with \u201cthere is no such thing as N\u201d. Contrast with \u201cS touches N\u201d which implies there is such a thing as N.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">[. . .]<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">Do you see any problem with that position?<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">When you say, &quot;empty names can refer,&quot; do you mean that some empty names refer and some empty names do not refer? Or do you mean that all empty names refer? (Compare:&#0160;<\/span><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">If I said that integers can be either odd or even, that would be equivalent to saying that&#0160; some integers are odd and some are even.)<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">I will assume that you mean that all empty names refer.&#0160; You say that this is because &#39;refers to&#39; is intentional. It is intentional in the very same way that thinking-of is intentional. To think is to think of something. But &#39;A thinks of&#0160; N&#39; is logically consistent with &#39;there is no such thing as N.&#39;&#0160; If I am thinking of Asmodeus, it does not follow that I am thinking of something that exists.&#0160; So far, so good. Now I take it that you hold that the following are all logically equivalent where the substituends for &#39;N&#39; are proper names such as &#39;Moses&#39; and &#39;Asmodeus.&#39;&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">There is no such thing as N<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">There exists no such thing as N<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">It is not the case that there exists an x such that x = N<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">It is not the case that some existing thing is identical to N<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">It is not the case that something is identical to N<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">No existing thing is identical to N<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">Nothing is identical to N<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">N is not a member of the class K of existing things.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">N is not a member of class K of things.&#0160;&#0160;<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">You are making the following additional assumptions. Everything exists. (Quine contra &#39;Wyman.&#39;) &#39;Is&#39; and &#39;exists&#39; have the same sense. &#39;Existential quantifier&#39; and &#39;particular quantifier&#39; are two different names for one and the same quantifier.&#0160; &#39;N does not exist&#39; says just this: it is not the case that something is identical to N.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino;\"><span style=\"font-size: 17.3333px;\">Your view implies a contradiction:<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">1) Empty names such as &#39;Asmodeus&#39; refer. (R &amp; I, 9-10)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">2) To refer is to refer to something. (R &amp; I, 9-10)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">Therefore<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">3) &#39;Asmodeus&#39; refers to something. (As you explicitly state, <em>ibid<\/em>.)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">4) In the case of &#39;Asmodeus,&#39; an empty name, &#39;Asmodeus&#39;&#0160; refers to something that does not exist.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">5) Everything exists.&#0160; (There are no nonexistent things. &#39;Something does not exist&#39; is contradictory.)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">Therefore<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">6) &#39;Asmodeus&#39; refers to nothing.&#0160; (3, 4, 5)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">Therefore<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">7) (3) and (6) are contradictories.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">Therefore<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">8) One of your assumptions is false.<\/span><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Returning to the ongoing thread: So to summarise the discussion so far. The doctrine of&#0160;Reference and Identity&#0160;is that empty names can refer. That is because the verb phrase \u2018refers to\u2019 is&#0160;intentional. That is, \u201cS refers to N\u201d is consistent with \u201cthere is no such thing as N\u201d. Contrast with \u201cS touches N\u201d which implies there &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2021\/08\/12\/back-to-the-intentionalityreference-discussion\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Back to the Intentionality\/Reference Discussion&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2493","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2493","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2493"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2493\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2493"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2493"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2493"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}