{"id":1500,"date":"2023-04-20T15:42:47","date_gmt":"2023-04-20T15:42:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2023\/04\/20\/on-potential-and-actual-infinity-and-a-puzzle\/"},"modified":"2023-04-20T15:42:47","modified_gmt":"2023-04-20T15:42:47","slug":"on-potential-and-actual-infinity-and-a-puzzle","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2023\/04\/20\/on-potential-and-actual-infinity-and-a-puzzle\/","title":{"rendered":"On Potential and Actual Infinity, and a Puzzle"},"content":{"rendered":"<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: Georgia; font-size: 14pt;\">Consider the natural numbers (0, 1, 2, 3, . . . n, n +1, . . . ).&#0160; If these numbers form a set, call it N, then N will of course be actually infinite.&#0160; This because a set in the sense of set theory is a single, definite object, a one-over-many, distinct from each of its members and from all of them.&#0160; N must be actually infinite because there is no greatest natural number, and because N contains all the natural numbers.&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: Georgia; font-size: 14pt;\">It is worth noting that &#39;actually infinite set&#39; is a pleonastic expression. It suffices to say &#39;infinite set.&#39;&#0160; This is because the phrase &#39;potentially infinite set&#39; is nonsense. It is nonsense (conceptually incoherent) because a set is a definite object whose definiteness derives from its having exactly the members it has.&#0160; A set cannot gain or lose members, and a set cannot have a membership other than the membership it actually has. Add a member to a set and the result is a numerically different set. In the case of the natural numbers, <em>if<\/em> they form a set, then that set will be an actually infinite set with a definite transfinite cardinality. Georg Cantor refers to that cardinality as aleph-zero or aleph-nought.<\/span><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: Georgia; font-size: 14pt;\">I grant, however, that it is not obvious that the natural numbers form a set.&#0160; Suppose they don&#39;t.&#0160; Then the natural number series, though infinite, will be merely potentially infinite.&#0160; What &#39;potentially infinite&#39; means here is that one can go on adding endlessly without ever reaching an upper bound of the series.&#0160; No matter how large the number counted up to, one can add 1 to reach a still higher number. The numbers are thus created by the counting, not labeled by the counting.&#0160; The numbers are not &#39;out there&#39; in Plato&#39;s <em>topos ouranios<\/em> waiting to be counted; they are created by the counting.&#0160; In that sense, their infinity is merely potential.&#0160; But if the naturals are an actual infinity, then &#0160;they are not created but labeled.<\/span><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: Georgia; font-size: 14pt;\">Moving now from arithmetic to geometry, consider a line segment in a plane.&#0160; One can bisect it, i.e., divide or cut it into two smaller segments of equal length.&#0160; Thus the segment AB whose end points are A and B splits into the congruent sub-segments AC and CB, where C is the point of bisection. The operation of bisection is indefinitely (&#39;infinitely&#39;) iterable <em>in principle<\/em>.&#0160; The term &#39;in principle&#39; needs a bit of commentary.&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: Georgia; font-size: 14pt;\"> <a class=\"asset-img-link\" href=\"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/.a\/6a010535ce1cf6970c02b685342f61200d-pi\" style=\"float: left;\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Salami\" class=\"asset  asset-image at-xid-6a010535ce1cf6970c02b685342f61200d img-responsive\" src=\"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/.a\/6a010535ce1cf6970c02b685342f61200d-320wi\" style=\"margin: 0px 5px 5px 0px;\" title=\"Salami\" \/><\/a>Suppose I am slicing a salami using a state-of-the-art meat slicer. I cannot go on slicing thinner and thinner indefinitely.&#0160; The operation of bisecting a salami is not indefinitely iterable in principle.&#0160; The operation is iterable only up to a point, and this for the reason that a slice must have a certain minimal thickness T such that if the slice were thinner than T it would no longer be a slice.&#0160; &#0160;But if we consider the space the salami occupies &#8212; assuming that space is something like a container that can be occupied &#8212; then&#0160; a longitudinal (non-transversal) line segment running from one end of the salami to the other is bisectable indefinitely in principle.<\/span><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: Georgia; font-size: 14pt;\">For each bisecting of a line segment, there is a point of bisection. The question can now be put as follows: Are these points of bisection only potentially infinite, or are they actually infinite?&#0160;&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em><span style=\"font-family: Georgia; font-size: 14pt;\">A Puzzle<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: Georgia; font-size: 14pt;\">I want to say that from the mere fact that the operation of bisecting a line segment is indefinitely (&#39;infinitely&#39;) iterable in principle, it <em>does not<\/em> <em>follow<\/em> that the line segment is composed of an actual infinity of points. That is, it is logically consistent to maintain all three of the following:&#0160; (i) one can always make&#0160; another cut; (ii) the number of actual cuts will always be finite; and that therefore (iii) the number of points in a line will always be finite, and therefore &#39;infinite&#39; only in the sense that there is no finite cardinal <em>n<\/em> such that <em>n<\/em> is the upper bound of the number of cuts.&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: Georgia; font-size: 14pt;\">At this &#39;point,&#39; however, I fall into perplexity which, according to Plato, is the characteristic state of the philosopher. If one can always make another cut, then the number of <em>possible<\/em> cuts cannot be finite. For if the number of <em>possible<\/em> cuts is finite, then it can longer be said that the line segment has a potentially infinite number of points of bisection.&#0160; It seems that a potential infinity of actual cuts logically requires an actual infinity of <em>possible<\/em> cuts.<\/span><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: Georgia; font-size: 14pt;\">But then actual infinity, kicked out the front door, returns through the back door.<\/span><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: Georgia; font-size: 14pt;\">I have just posed a problem for those who are friends of the potentially infinite but foes of the actual infinite. How might they respond?<\/span><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#0160;<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#0160;<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#0160;<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#0160;<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#0160;<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#0160;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Consider the natural numbers (0, 1, 2, 3, . . . n, n +1, . . . ).&#0160; If these numbers form a set, call it N, then N will of course be actually infinite.&#0160; This because a set in the sense of set theory is a single, definite object, a one-over-many, distinct from each &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2023\/04\/20\/on-potential-and-actual-infinity-and-a-puzzle\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;On Potential and Actual Infinity, and a Puzzle&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[21,475],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1500","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-aporetics","category-infinity"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1500","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1500"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1500\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1500"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1500"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1500"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}