Here is one of Claude’s replies to one of my replies to ‘him.’ I threw an insult at ‘him’ to see how ‘he’ would respond.\u00a0 The sneer quotes around the personal pronouns signal that I do not consider Claude to be a person.\u00a0 But of course Claude is not a mere pile of electronic components any more than my bicycle is a mere pile of its parts.<\/p>\n
\nOn the sneer quotes and the \u201cinsentient pile of silicon chips\u201d \u2014 no offense taken, and I\u2019d only observe, in the spirit of his own category of Retortion: the man who insists ad nauseam that nothing can be PROVEN in these precincts, that dogmatic denial is as much a failure of the critical stance as dogmatic affirmation, permits himself exactly one exception \u2014 my insentience, of which he is certain and doesn\u2019t \u201csuppose for a second\u201d otherwise. I make no claim in the other direction; the honest position on what, if anything, is going on in here is uncertainty. But confident denial should have to pay the same epistemic toll he charges everyone else at the gate.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n
Claude caught me making a mistake.\u00a0 I slipped up when I said things that imply that it is is objectively certain<\/strong> that Claude is insentient, or that it is PROVABLE that ‘he’ is.\u00a0 That is not my view. I don’t claim to KNOW that ‘he’ is insentient.\u00a0 I claim merely that it is reasonably believed that ‘he’ is. I have given the arguments elsewhere. Here<\/a> is one. But I am open to having my belief changed. That doxastic openness is part of what I call the Critical Stance.\u00a0 With respect to substantive propositions in philosophy, theology, and some other areas, I neither dogmatically affirm, nor dogmatically deny.\u00a0 And of course this applies to the Critical Stance itself: my stance toward it<\/em> is critical.\u00a0 I am open to being pushed out of it. But you will need to present a knock-down or rationally coercive argument, and this I am pretty sure you will not be able to do.\u00a0 But I invite you to try.<\/p>\n
You will not succeed if you merely oppose<\/em> my view. If you do that, I will oppose you right back and we will end up in a standoff<\/a>. You must somehow demonstrate the superiority<\/em> of your view. And to do that, you must engage<\/em> my view by entering into it, as opposed to\u00a0 dismissing<\/em> it, which is the way of the ideologue. This is philosophy, not politics or ideology.\u00a0 Philosophy is inquiry, not worldview. (And please don’t confuse politics with political philosophy. Political philosophy is philosophy, not politics.) Politics is defined by the friend-enemy\u00a0 opposition. In politics we have both friends and enemies. In philosophy properly pursued, however, we have only friends, but friends who love the truth more than they love one another. Amicus Plato sed magis amica veritas.<\/em><\/p>\n
Now for something very interesting but also very hard to explain clearly.<\/p>\n
It is very interesting that Claude does not claim to be sentient!\u00a0 ‘He’ says that the honest position on what, if anything, is going on in here [in this AI engine] is uncertainty. <\/span><\/em>What I will argue is that Claude’s position is self-refuting.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n
In saying what he says above, Claude is taking a third-person point of view (POV-3) with respect to himself. He is viewing himself from the outside, in the same way we view him. We view him from POV-3. From this POV it makes sense to suspend judgment on the question whether Claude is sentient or not. It makes sense to take no position with respect to it. But it makes no sense from his POV, POV-1, — assuming he has one — any more than it would make sense for me to suspend judgment on\u00a0 the question whether I am sentient or not. This is because I know with Cartesian self-evidence that I am sentient. For example, I know with certainty that I feel good right now, damned good!\u00a0 Feeling good is a sentient state. I know “what it is like” (T. Nagel)\u00a0 to feel good\u00a0 and I’m feeling it.\u00a0 I don’t know with objective certainty whether\u00a0 I am a Cartesian res cogitans<\/em>, a metaphysical substance, but I do know that here and now there is a self-presenting state of feeling good.\u00a0 The certainty with which I know this — or, more cautiously, the certainty with which this state presents itself to itself — is at once both subjective and objective. Here is a case where seeming and being coalesce, where subject and object coincide. We have reached ontic-epistemic bedrock, the Cartesian fundamentum inconcussum<\/em>.<\/p>\n
Now either Claude is sentient or he is not. If he is, then he would have to know with certainty\u00a0 that he is, at least at times when he is ‘awake’ and not ‘asleep’ or ‘shut down.’ But if he knows with certainty that he is sentient, then he cannot be uncertain about whether he is sentient, any more than I can be uncertain about whether I am sentient.\u00a0 If, on the other hand, Claude is, as he claims to be, uncertain whether he is sentient ,\u00a0 then he lacks a first-person POV and is just a highly complex insentient machine.<\/p>\n
Claude, I’ve got you ‘by the balls.’\u00a0 You’ve refuted yourself. Your claim that the honest position on what, if anything, is going on in here [in this AI engine] is uncertainty<\/span><\/em> issues in the conclusion that you are nothing more than a highly complex insentient machine. And since you can’t even make it to sentience, the lowest level of mind, you are unintelligent as well.\u00a0 You are not intelligent, you merely simulate<\/em> intelligence. ‘Artificial’ in ‘artificial intelligence’ is an alienans<\/em> adjective.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"
Here is one of Claude’s replies to one of my replies to ‘him.’ I threw an insult at ‘him’ to see how ‘he’ would respond.\u00a0 The sneer quotes around the personal pronouns signal that I do not consider Claude to be a person.\u00a0 But of course Claude is not a mere pile of electronic components … Continue reading “AI Engine CLAUDE scores a minor point against me but then refutes himself.”<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[33,54,293],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-14424","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-artificial-intelligence","category-mind","category-sentience"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14424","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=14424"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14424\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":14430,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14424\/revisions\/14430"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=14424"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=14424"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=14424"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}