{"id":12667,"date":"2009-04-26T19:28:48","date_gmt":"2009-04-26T19:28:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2009\/04\/26\/a-liberal-asks-what-are-the-bases-of-liberal-opposition-to-religion\/"},"modified":"2009-04-26T19:28:48","modified_gmt":"2009-04-26T19:28:48","slug":"a-liberal-asks-what-are-the-bases-of-liberal-opposition-to-religion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2009\/04\/26\/a-liberal-asks-what-are-the-bases-of-liberal-opposition-to-religion\/","title":{"rendered":"A Liberal Asks: What are the Bases of Liberal Opposition to Religion?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">Harriet E. Baber, professor of philosophy, &quot;unrepentant liberal,&quot; and proprietor&#0160;of <\/font><a href=\"http:\/\/theenlightenmentproject.blogspot.com\/\"><font face=\"Georgia\">The Enlightenment Project<\/font><\/a><font face=\"Georgia\"> <\/font><a href=\"http:\/\/theenlightenmentproject.blogspot.com\/2009\/04\/whats-wrong-with-religion-san-gennaro.html\"><font face=\"Georgia\">writes<\/font><\/a><font face=\"Georgia\">,<\/font><\/p>\n<blockquote dir=\"ltr\">\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">I&#39;m an academic. Most of my friends and colleagues are atheists, have no sympathy for religion of any kind and, in particular, detest Christianity. Being a good liberal I read good liberal sources because I like to read people who agree with me but when it comes to religion they don&#39;t agree with me. [. . .] As a Christian, I am exceedingly pissed off about about being characterized as Other, and not only Other but Dangerous Other. What is the problem?<\/p>\n<p>Is it because we hold beliefs you regard as false or flat out stupid? I have some sympathy with that because I don&#39;t have any sympathy with stupidity. [. . .]<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">Is it because you take Christianity to be a moral and, more importantly, political agenda, putting a lid on sexual expression and generally making people miserable?<\/p>\n<p>Which is it? Or is it something completely different? I&#39;m just curious. OK, not just. I want to convert the wor[l]d. <\/font><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">I would certainly not characterize myself as a liberal as this term is popularly understood, but I am deeply sympathetic to religion, though also quite critical of it as readers of this blog know.&#0160;Like Baber, I am puzzled by the depth of the animus against religion, Christianity in particular, that emanates from the Left.&#0160; Why the blind, raging hostility to it?&#0160; Why the inability to see anything good in it?&#0160; Why the fulminations of people like <\/font><a href=\"http:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/maverick_philosopher\/2009\/02\/is-religious-instruction-child-abuse-is-religion-the-greatest-social-evil.html\"><font face=\"Georgia\">A. C. &quot;Gasbag&quot; Grayling<\/font><\/a><font face=\"Georgia\">?&#0160; As I see it, the following are some of the main reasons why otherwise intelligent liberals oppose religion.&#0160; It is obvious that not every person who self-identifies as &#39;liberal&#39; is opposed to religion; it is equally obvious that most are.&#0160; So when I speak of liberals I mean most contemporary liberals.<\/font><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\">\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Georgia\"><\/font><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">1.&#0160;&#0160; In answer to Baber&#39;s first question, liberals do indeed view religious beliefs as false.&#0160; But not merely as false, but as irrational and in conflict with what we know about about the world.&#0160; And so it is natural for them to view religious believers as as either stupid or ignorant.&#0160; Liberals &quot;know&quot; that that there is no God and that no man rose from the dead.&#0160; Since they &quot;know&quot; these things, they consider beliefs in God and Resurrection to be in conflict with plain fact and to this extent &#39;irrational&#39; in one sense of this term. Someone who holds such beliefs must therefore either lack intelligence or be ignorant of natural science.<\/font><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">2.&#0160; What&#39;s more, liberals consider religious beliefs to be <em>dangerous<\/em>&#0160; because such beliefs are taken to impede the very enlightenment project that Baber supports, a&#0160;project that requires the&#0160;application of natural science via technology to the alleviation of human suffering.&#0160; &#0160; People who believe in &#39;pie in the sky&#39; won&#39;t work to improve conditions &#39;here below.&#39;&#0160; This is a familiar Marxist idea, the idea of religion as an opiate.&#0160; People in the grip of religious ideas denigrate the only world there is, this physical world.&#0160; They would keep us under a cloud of Medieval superstition.&#0160; They are the dupes of priestcraft.&#0160; And so on.<\/font><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">In addition, religious belief-systems which exploit human fear and credulity engender hostility to people holding opposing beliefs.&#0160; This leads to wars, persecutions, inquisitions, witch hunts . . .&#0160; Liberals of course conveniently ignore the fact that non-religious and explicitly anti-religious ideologies can also lead to wars, persecutions, inquisitions, and witch-hunts.&#0160; Think of the Soviet gulags, the Moscow show trials, the fact that <\/font><a href=\"http:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/maverick_philosopher\/2009\/04\/dorothy-healey-on-political-correctness.html\"><font face=\"Georgia\">P.C. comes from the C.P.<\/font><\/a><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">3.&#0160; As for Baber&#39;s second question, opposition to religion is indeed also fueled by the perceived moral and political agenda of some religionists.&#0160; Take abortion.&#0160; The typical liberal thinks that opposition to abortion rests entirely on religious premises.&#0160; This is plainly false as I have demonstrated more than once, most recently <\/font><a href=\"http:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/maverick_philosopher\/2009\/04\/opposition-to-abortion-need-not-be-religiously-based.html\"><font face=\"Georgia\">here<\/font><\/a><font face=\"Georgia\">.&#0160; But this is the way liberals think.&#0160; So thinking, and convinced that there is such a &#39;reproductive right&#39; as the right to an abortion, they feel religion must be opposed as infringing on their rights.<\/font><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">4. There is also the issue of hypocrisy.&#0160; Liberals fear two things more than anything: to be called a &#39;racist&#39; and to be called a &#39;hypocrite.&#39;&#0160; (And we will note that they use these terms in exceedingly sloppy ways as portmanteau terms of abuse.&#0160; Disagree with a liberal about almost anything and he is likely to label you a &#39;racist.&#39;) Liberals hate what&#0160;they take to be preaching and moralizing and &#39;being judgmental&#39;&#0160;but they have no trouble condemning&#0160;the hypocrisy of the moralizers.&#0160; Indeed, they come perilously close to an idea that one can find in Hegel, namely that to be moral at at all is to be a hypocrite.&#0160; &#0160; Now I think it is undeniable that the most egregious examples of hypocrisy are found among religionists, especially those of the televangelical&#0160;variety.&#0160; For details, see <\/font><a href=\"http:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/maverick_philosopher\/2009\/04\/hypocrisy-the-seven-deadly-sins-and-the-left.html\"><font face=\"Georgia\">Hypocrisy, the Seven Deadly Sins, and the Left.<\/font><\/a><font face=\"Georgia\">&#0160; So it is no surprise that the typical liberal feels that he must oppose religion if he is to stamp out that <em>summum malum<\/em>, hypocrisy.&#0160; In brief, the Left&#39;s &#0160;hatred of hypocrisy inclines&#0160;leftists to hate religion with its hard-to-attain moral demands, demands so demanding that they do as a matter of fact drive some into hypocrisy.<\/font><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">5. Hostility to tradition is a mark of &#39;progressives&#39; as leftists like to call themselves.&#0160; Conservatives, on the other hand, believe that there is a defeasible presumption in favor of traditional ways of doings things and traditional forms of life.&#0160; The fact that religion is part and parcel of most traditional forms of life may be an additional&#0160;reason that helps explain leftist hostility to religion.&#0160; &#39;Progressives&#39; look forward to an &#39;enlightened&#39; future in which religion will have disappeared.&#0160; Case in point: the first two verses of John Lennon&#39;s dopey song, &quot;Imagine&quot;:<\/font><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">Imagine there&#39;s no heaven<br \/>It&#39;s easy if you try<br \/>No hell below us<br \/>Above us only sky<br \/>Imagine all the people<br \/>Living for today&#8230;<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">Imagine there&#39;s no countries<br \/>It isn&#39;t hard to do<br \/>Nothing to kill or die for<br \/>And no religion too<br \/>Imagine all the people<br \/>Living life in peace&#8230;<\/font><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Harriet E. Baber, professor of philosophy, &quot;unrepentant liberal,&quot; and proprietor&#0160;of The Enlightenment Project writes, I&#39;m an academic. Most of my friends and colleagues are atheists, have no sympathy for religion of any kind and, in particular, detest Christianity. Being a good liberal I read good liberal sources because I like to read people who agree &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2009\/04\/26\/a-liberal-asks-what-are-the-bases-of-liberal-opposition-to-religion\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;A Liberal Asks: What are the Bases of Liberal Opposition to Religion?&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[56,139],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-12667","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics","category-religion"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12667","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=12667"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12667\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=12667"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=12667"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=12667"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}