{"id":12608,"date":"2009-05-29T19:19:27","date_gmt":"2009-05-29T19:19:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2009\/05\/29\/an-objection-against-frankfurtstyle-examples-peter-lupu\/"},"modified":"2009-05-29T19:19:27","modified_gmt":"2009-05-29T19:19:27","slug":"an-objection-against-frankfurtstyle-examples-peter-lupu","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2009\/05\/29\/an-objection-against-frankfurtstyle-examples-peter-lupu\/","title":{"rendered":"An Objection Against Frankfurt-Style Examples (Peter Lupu)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">&#0160;<\/font><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\"><span style=\"FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; COLOR: #0000bf\">(Comments in blue by BV.)<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">1) Frankfurt-style examples are intended to be counterexamples to PAP.<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">PAP: A person S is morally responsible for intentionally doing X at t only if S can intentionally refrain from doing X at t.<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><span style=\"FONT-FAMILY: Trebuchet MS; COLOR: #0000bf\"><font face=\"Georgia\">BV: The following formulation better captures what Frankfurt actually says in his 1969 <em>J. Phil.<\/em> article, namely, &quot;a person is morally responsible for what he has done only if he could have done otherwise.&quot;<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><span style=\"FONT-FAMILY: Trebuchet MS; COLOR: #0000bf\"><font face=\"Georgia\">PAP*:&#0160; A person S is morally responsible for intentionally doing X at&#0160;t only if (i)&#0160;S intentionally does X at time t, and (ii) S could have intentionally refrained from doing X at t.<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">Assumption: I assume that intentionally refraining from doing X is identical to intentionally doing some Y, where Y is not identical to X. <\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><span style=\"FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; COLOR: #0000bf\">BV: Do you need this assumption? The assumption appears false.&#0160;&#0160; If I refrain from doing one thing, it doesn&#39;t follow that I do some other thing:&#0160; I could do nothing at all.&#0160; If I refrain from smoking a cigarette during the next ten minutes, it&#0160;does not follow that I do something else during that period.&#0160; I take it that not-doing-X is not an action.&#0160; It is an action-omission.&#0160; If &#39;X&#39; and &#39;Y&#39; range over action-types, <span id=\"fck_dom_range_temp_1243647697312_38\"><\/span>then not-doing-X is not identical to doing-some-Y.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">2) A Frankfurt-style example is going to be a genuine counterexample to PAP just in case it entails the antecedent of PAP as well as the negation of its consequent: i.e.,<\/p>\n<p>(I) S is morally responsible for doing X at t;<br \/>(II) It is not the case that S can intentionally refrain from doing X at t.<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><span style=\"FONT-FAMILY: Trebuchet MS; COLOR: #0000bf\"><font face=\"Georgia\">BV: Note that (II&#39;) <span id=\"fck_dom_range_temp_1243648945640_787\"><\/span>corresponding to PAP* is<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><span style=\"FONT-FAMILY: Trebuchet MS; COLOR: #0000bf\"><font face=\"Georgia\">(II&#39;) Either it is not the case that S intentionally does X at t, or it is not the case that S could have intentionally refrained from doing X at t.<\/font><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">3) The following are two claims I shall prove:<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">Claim 1: Any Frankfurt-style example that is interpreted to entail (I) and (II) is inconsistent: i.e., it also entails the negation of either (I) or (II). <\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">Claim 2: Any Frankfurt-style example that is interpreted as entailing (II*) instead of (II) is consistent but is not a counterexample to PAP. <\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">(II*) It is not the case that S can behave in a manner other than X at t.<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">But, (II*) is not the negation of the consequent of PAP. Hence, (I) and (II*) do not refute PAP. Therefore, standard Frankfurt-style examples are either inconsistent or they are not genuine counterexamples to PAP.<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">4) Suppose a Frankfurt-style example (choose your favorite example) entails (I) and (II). <br \/>4.1) Then such an example includes a backup mechanism that is capable of directly causing S to do X at t in the event S intentionally refrains from doing X at t. But the very existence of such a backup mechanism entails <\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">(III) S can intentionally refrain from doing X at t.<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">Because if (III) were false and S could not intentionally refrain from doing X at t, then there would be no need for a backup mechanism. <br \/>4.2) (II) and (III) are contradictories. <br \/>4.3) Therefore, the assumption stated in (4) must be false. <br \/>4.4) This proves Claim 1 above.<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\"><span style=\"FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; COLOR: #0000bf\">BV:&#0160; I agree that (II) and (III) are contradictories.&#0160; But (II&#39;) and (III) are not contradictories.&#0160; So even if you succeed in refuting your PAP, you haven&#39;t refuted Frankfurt&#39;s PAP*.&#0160; If I haven&#39;t blundered, it seems that the debate now shifts to what exactly the Principle of Alternate Possibilities is.<br \/><\/span><br \/>5) Suppose that a Frankfurt-style example entails (I) and (II*). <br \/>5.1) As before, such an example entails (III) as well. But, now, notice that as long as we maintain a sharp distinction between behavior and action, (II*) and (III) are perfectly consistent. <br \/>5.3) Therefore, the supposition stated in (5) does not lead to a contradiction. Frankfurt-style examples that entail (I), (II*), and (III) are perfectly consistent. <br \/>5.4) But notice that none of these propositions; i.e., (I), (II*), and (III) contradict the consequent of PAP. Therefore, consistent Frankfurt-style examples are not counterexamples to PAP. This proves Claim 2.<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">6) Since this holds for any arbitrary Frankfurt-style example, we can state the following:<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">(*) Every Frankfurt-style example is either inconsistent or it is not a counterexamples to PAP.<\/p>\n<p>7) The only potentially vulnerable move that I can see in this argument is the claim that the existence of a backup mechanism entails (III): S can intentionally refrain from doing X at t. <br \/>7.1) But, how can the proponents of Frankfurt-style examples deny such an entailment? The very point of Frankfurt-style examples is that the existence of such a backup mechanism (however it is described) is feasible and that its sole purpose is to insure that in the event S intentionally refrains from doing X at t, then the backup mechanism induces S to do X at t. Thus, the rationale of such a backup mechanism presupposes that S can intentionally refrain from doing X at t; but this just is (III). Hence, any Frankfurt-style example entails (III). <\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\"><\/font><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#0160;(Comments in blue by BV.) 1) Frankfurt-style examples are intended to be counterexamples to PAP. PAP: A person S is morally responsible for intentionally doing X at t only if S can intentionally refrain from doing X at t. BV: The following formulation better captures what Frankfurt actually says in his 1969 J. 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