{"id":124,"date":"2025-06-10T13:57:50","date_gmt":"2025-06-10T13:57:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2025\/06\/10\/heaven-hell-and-the-will-to-believe\/"},"modified":"2025-06-10T13:57:50","modified_gmt":"2025-06-10T13:57:50","slug":"heaven-hell-and-the-will-to-believe","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2025\/06\/10\/heaven-hell-and-the-will-to-believe\/","title":{"rendered":"Heaven, Hell, Purgatory, and the Will to Believe"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote>\n<div dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">My friend, I continue to read and reread your Heaven and Hell <a href=\"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/maverick_philosopher\/2025\/05\/heaven-too-good-to-be-true.html\">essay<\/a>, especially the &quot;Concluding Existential-Practical Postscript&quot;.<\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#0160;<\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">Psalm 23. &quot;The Lord is my Shepherd. I shall not&#8230;.&quot; Let us pray that there is a Good Shepherd who cares deeply about his flock and will do things to relieve their suffering. Can we come to believe in him with an act of will? <\/span><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 14pt;\">Surely not by an act of will alone. You didn&#39;t carefully attend to what I wrote&#0160; (and to which I now add bolding):<\/span><\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 14pt;\">. . . while these philosophical and theological problems are genuine and important, they cannot be resolved on the theoretical plane.&#0160; <strong>In the end, after canvassing all the problems and all the arguments for and against<\/strong>, one simply has to decide what one will believe and how one will live. <strong>In the end<\/strong>, the will comes into it.&#0160; The will <strong>must<\/strong> come into it, since nothing in this area can be proven, strictly speaking.&#0160; [. . .]&#0160; The will comes into it, as I like to say, because the discursive intellect entangles itself in problems it cannot unravel.&#0160;&#0160;<\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#0160;<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 14pt;\">Obviously, one cannot decide what the truth is: the truth is what it is regardless of what we believe, desire, hope for, fear, etc.&#0160; But one can and must decide what one will <em>believe<\/em> with respect to those propositions that are existentially important.&#0160; What is true does not depend on us; what we believe does (within certain limits of course: it would be foolish to endorse doxastic voluntarism across the board.)&#0160;<\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#0160;<\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 14pt;\">You have read Sextus Empiricus and know&#0160; something about Pyrrhonian skepticism. You know that, with respect to many issues, the arguments on either side, <em>pro et con<\/em>, &#39;cancel out&#39; and leave one in a state of doxastic equipoise.&#0160; In many of these situations, the rational course is to suspend judgment by neither affirming nor denying the proposition at issue, especially when the issues are contention-inspiring and likely to lead to bitter controversy and bloodshed.&#0160; But not in all situations, or so say I against Sextus.&#0160; One ought not in all situations of doxastic equipoise suspend judgment. For there are some issues that are existentially important. (One of them, of course, is whether we have a higher destiny attainment of which depends on how we comport ourselves here and now.)&#0160; With respect to these existentially important issues, one <em>ought not<\/em> seek the <em>ataraxia<\/em> (imperturbableness) that supposedly, according to Sextus, comes from living <em>adoxastos (<\/em>belieflessly<em>).&#0160;<\/em>To do so might be theoretically rational, but not practically rational. It would be theoretically rational, but only if we were mere transcendental spectators of the passing scene as opposed to <em>situated<\/em> spectators embroiled in it.&#0160; We are embedded in the push and shove of this fluxed-up causal order and not mere observers of it. We have what Wilhelm Dilthey calls a <em>Sitz im Leben<\/em>.<\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#0160;<\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 14pt;\">As I like to put it, we are not merely spectators of life&#39;s parade; we also march in it.&#0160; (A mere spectator of a parade may not care where it is headed; but if you are marching in it, swept up in it, you&#39;d damned well better care where it is headed.)<\/span><\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#0160;<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n<div dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">Suppose in order to have a decent day physically I need to begin it with a 10 K run. Well, most or at least many days I can make myself run. But on some days my legs just <u>will not.<\/u>&#0160;Pain and fatigue are the obstacles. Suppose to have a decent &quot;inner&quot; day I also need to begin it with believing in and trusting in our Good Shepherd. Some days, yes, but many days, I fear, I will not or cannot . Too much pain (before the meds) and too much exhaustion with the world.<\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#0160;<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 14pt;\">I said, &quot;In the end . . . one simply has to decide what one will believe and how one will live.&quot; I now add that, having made that decision after due consideration, one has to stick with it. You seem to think that belief and trust need to be generated each day anew.&#0160; I say instead that they do not: you already made the commitment to believe and trust; what you do each day is re-affirm it. It&#39;s a standing commitment. Standing commitments transcend the moment and the doubts of the moment. And of course doubts there will be.&#0160; One ought to avoid the mistake of letting a lesser moment, a moment of doubt or weakness or temptation, undo the commitment made in a higher moment, one of existential clarity.&#0160;&#0160;<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#0160;<\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 14pt;\">It&#39;s like a marital vow. After due deliberation you decided to commit yourself to one person, from that moment forward, in sickness and in health, through good times and bad, &#39;til death do you part.&#0160; You know what that means: no sexual intercourse with anyone else for the rest of your days;&#0160; if she gets sick you will nurse her; if you have to deplete your savings to&#0160; cover her medical expenses, you will do so, etc.&#0160; You may be sorely tempted to make a move on your neighbor&#39;s wife, and dump your own when she is physically shot and you must play the nurse.&#0160; That is where the vows come in and the moral test comes.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">&#0160;<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">Inserting a benevolent Creator in this world I encounter is VERY difficult.&#0160;<\/span><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">&#0160;<\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 14pt;\">I agree that it is VERY difficult at times to believe that this&#0160; world is the creation of&#0160; an omni-qualified providential God, a &#39;Father&#39; who lovingly foresees and provides for his &#39;children.&#39;&#0160; Why then did he not lift a finger to help his Chosen People who were worked to death and slaughtered in the <em>Vernichtungslagern<\/em> of the Third Reich?&#0160; And so on, and so forth. Nothing new here. It&#39;s the old problem of evil.&#0160; You can of course argue reasonably from the fact of evil to the nonexistence of God. But you can also argue reasonably from the fact of evil to the existence of God, and in more than one way. The &#39;Holocaust argument&#39;&#0160; is <a href=\"https:\/\/williamfvallicella.substack.com\/p\/the-holocaust-argument-for-gods-existence?utm_source=publication-search\">one way<\/a>.<\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#0160;<\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 14pt;\">This brings me back to my main point: in the end, you will have to decide what to believe and how to live. The will comes into it.<\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#0160;<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">Maybe I&#39;ve misunderstood you. I see &quot;will&quot; as a weak and unreliable route to a good life, much less salvation.&#0160;<\/span><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#0160;<\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 14pt;\">I disagree. While I don&#39;t agree with Nietzsche, for whom &quot;The will is the great redeemer,&quot; 0ne of the sources, I would guess, of Leni Riefenstahl&#39;s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=_6uVrO5d6KU\">Triumph des Willens,&#0160; <\/a><\/span><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 14pt;\">I see will as the only way to offset the infirmity of reason, which I imagine you must have some sympathy with given your appreciation for the Pyrrhonistas.&#0160; In the controversy between Leibniz and Pierre Bayle, I side with Bayle.&#0160; Reason is weak, though not so weak as to be incapable of gauging its own weakness.&#0160; We embedded spectators must act, action requires decision and de-cision &#8212; a cutting off of ratiocination &#8212; is will-driven<\/span><\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\">You see why I wonder whether we are not already in Hell. Where I have gone wrong?<\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">&#0160;<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 14pt; text-align: justify;\">You cannot seriously mean that we are in hell now. That makes as little sense as to say that we are in heaven now.&#0160; &quot;Words mean things,&quot; as Rush Limbaugh used to say in his flat-footed way, and in a serious discussion, I expect you will agree that one must define one&#39;s terms. The &#39;Jebbies&#39; (Jesuits) got hold of you at an impressionable age, and you became, as you told me, a star altar boy. You&#39;ve had a good education, you know Latin and Greek, and went on to get a doctorate in philosophy in the U.K.<\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">&#0160;<\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">So you must know that w<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">hat &#39;hell&#39; means theologically is &#0160;\u201c[the] state of definitive self-exclusion from communion with God and the blessed.\u201d (<em>Catechism of the Catholic Church<\/em>, paragraph 1033.) To be in hell is to be in a state that is wholly evil and from which there is no exit.&#0160; Now is this world as we experience it wholly evil? Of course not. Neither it is wholly good.&#0160;&#0160;<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">&#0160;<\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">It simply makes no sense, on any responsible use of terms, to describe this life, <em>hic et nunc<\/em>, as either heaven or hell. If you want to tag it theologically, the appropriate term would be &#39;purgatory.&#39; As I wrote <a href=\"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/maverick_philosopher\/2025\/05\/heaven-too-good-to-be-true.html\">earlier<\/a>,<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino; font-size: 13pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">. . . it is reasonably held that we are right now in purgatory. The case is made brilliantly and with vast erudition by Geddes MacGregor in <em>Reincarnation in Christianity<\/em> (Quest Books, 1978,&#0160; see in particular, ch. 10, &quot;Reincarnation as Purgatory.&quot;<\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>My friend, I continue to read and reread your Heaven and Hell essay, especially the &quot;Concluding Existential-Practical Postscript&quot;. &#0160; Psalm 23. &quot;The Lord is my Shepherd. I shall not&#8230;.&quot; Let us pray that there is a Good Shepherd who cares deeply about his flock and will do things to relieve their suffering. 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