{"id":11877,"date":"2010-01-30T05:30:00","date_gmt":"2010-01-30T05:30:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2010\/01\/30\/augustine-and-the-child-at-the-seashore\/"},"modified":"2010-01-30T05:30:00","modified_gmt":"2010-01-30T05:30:00","slug":"augustine-and-the-child-at-the-seashore","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2010\/01\/30\/augustine-and-the-child-at-the-seashore\/","title":{"rendered":"Augustine and the Child at the Seashore:  Trinitarian Metatheory"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\"><a href=\"http:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/.a\/6a010535ce1cf6970c01287733fca6970c-pi\" style=\"FLOAT: left\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"St-augustine\" class=\"asset asset-image at-xid-6a010535ce1cf6970c01287733fca6970c \" src=\"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/.a\/6a010535ce1cf6970c01287733fca6970c-320wi\" style=\"MARGIN: 0px 5px 5px 0px\" \/><\/a> I was told this story as a child by a nun.&#0160;One day St. Augustine was walking along the seashore, thinking about the Trinity. He came upon a child who had dug a hole in the sand and was busy filling it with buckets of seawater. <\/p>\n<p>Augustine: &quot;What are you doing?&quot; <\/p>\n<p>Child: &quot;I am trying to empty the ocean into this hole.&quot; <\/p>\n<p>Augustine: &quot;But that\u2019s impossible!&quot; <\/p>\n<p>Child: &quot;No more impossible than your comprehending the Trinity.&quot; <\/p>\n<p>The point of the story is that the Trinity is a mystery beyond our comprehension.&#0160; It is true, even though we cannot understand how could it be true, where &#39;could&#39;&#0160;expresses epistemic possibility.&#0160; It is a non-contradictory truth that lies beyond our mental horizon.&#0160; Could there be such truths?<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">Note that there are&#0160;at least three other ways of thinking about the Trinity doctrine.&#0160; One could take the view that the doctrine is both true and contradictory, along the lines of <a href=\"http:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/dialetheism\/\">dialetheism<\/a> according to which there are some true contradictions. (b) Or one could take the view that the doctrine is all of the following: true, non-contradictory, and intelligible to us, even though we cannot know it to be true by reason unaided by revelation.&#0160; Under this head would fall putative solutions to the consistency problem that aim to provide an adequate model or analogy, a model or analogy sufficient to render the orthodox doctrine intelligible to us.&#0160; (c) Finally, one could take the line that the doctrine is contradictory and therefore false.<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">Thus there appear to be at least four meta-theories of the orthodox Trinity doctrine.&#0160; These are theories about the logico-epistemic status of the doctrine.&#0160; We could call them Mysterianism, Dialetheism, Intelligibilism, and Incoherentism.&#0160; The last two terms are my own coinages.<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">Note that I have been talking about&#0160; orthodox (Athanasian) Trinity doctrine.&#0160; But religion and theology are, I would urge, open-ended, analogously as science is, and so there is no bar to theological innovation and development.&#0160; Perhaps one of the doctrines that got itself branded &#39;heretical&#39; can be rehabilitated and made to work. It is worth pondering that the orthodox are heretics to the heretics:&#0160; had a given heretical sect acquired sufficient power and influence, had it drawn to its side the best minds and most persuasive exponents, then it&#0160;would not be heretical but orthodox.<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">Everyone likes to think of his own <em>doxa<\/em> as <em>orthotes<\/em> but not every <em>doxa<\/em> can be such on pain of contradiction.&#0160; So we ought to be humble.&#0160; Apply the honorific &#39;orthodox&#39; to your doctrine if you like, but smile as you do so.<\/font><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I was told this story as a child by a nun.&#0160;One day St. Augustine was walking along the seashore, thinking about the Trinity. He came upon a child who had dug a hole in the sand and was busy filling it with buckets of seawater. Augustine: &quot;What are you doing?&quot; Child: &quot;I am trying to &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2010\/01\/30\/augustine-and-the-child-at-the-seashore\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Augustine and the Child at the Seashore:  Trinitarian Metatheory&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[331,335,92,288],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-11877","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-athens-and-jerusalem","category-augustine","category-autobiographical","category-trinity-and-incarnation"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11877","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=11877"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11877\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=11877"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=11877"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=11877"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}