{"id":11847,"date":"2010-02-09T18:46:04","date_gmt":"2010-02-09T18:46:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2010\/02\/09\/materialist-mysterianism\/"},"modified":"2010-02-09T18:46:04","modified_gmt":"2010-02-09T18:46:04","slug":"materialist-mysterianism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2010\/02\/09\/materialist-mysterianism\/","title":{"rendered":"Materialist Mysterianism"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">I wonder whether mysterianism in defense of such theological doctrines as the Trinity does not in the end backfire by making possible the philosophical justification of philosophical theses incompatible with it.&#0160; To ease our way into this line of inquiry, let us consider materialist mysterianism.&#0160; <\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">1.&#0160; If <\/font><a href=\"http:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/maverick_philosopher\/2010\/02\/negative-and-positive-trinitarian-mysterianism-.html\"><font face=\"Georgia\">mysterianism<\/font><\/a><font face=\"Georgia\">&#0160;is an acceptable approach in theology, why can&#39;t a materialist make use of it in the philosophy of mind?&#0160; The (positive) mysterian maintains that there are true propositions&#0160;which appear (and presumably must appear given our &#39;present&#39; cognitive make-up) contradictory.&#0160; This is not to be confused with dialetheism, the view that there are some true contradictions.&#0160; For the mysterian there are no true contradictions, but there are some truths that must appear to us as contradictory due to our cognitive limitations.&#0160; <\/font><\/p>\n<div style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><\/div>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\n<font face=\"Georgia\"><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">2. Now consider token-token materialism in the philosophy of mind.&#0160; This is the view that every token mental state, whether or not exhibiting intentionality,&#0160;is identical to some token physical state.&#0160; And because mental states, if identical to physical states,&#0160;are in the head and not in the gluteus maximus, we can substitute for present purposes &#39;brain state&#39; for &#39;physical state.&#39;&#0160; We needn&#39;t be concerned whether mental states are type-identical to brain states.&#0160; Identity at the level of tokens is to be understood as absolute numerical identity, which is an equivalence relation (reflexive, symmetrical and transitive) governed by the Indiscernibility of Identicals (<em>InId<\/em>) and the Necessity of Identity.&#0160; <em>InId<\/em>&#0160;is commonly (mis)called &#39;Leibniz&#39;s Law.&#39;<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">3. We now consider a line of argument that motivates and makes plausible the token-token identity materialism just sketched:<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">a. <em>Anti-Eliminativism<\/em>:&#0160; There really are mental states.&#0160; If some eliminativist denies this, kick him in the&#0160;<em>cojones<\/em> and invite him to focus on the sensory qualia he is now enduring.&#0160; Repeat as necessary.&#0160; You should&#0160;be able to get through to him unless he is a philosophical zombie or a sophist.&#0160; If he&#39;s a sophist, show him the door and apply your boot to his glutes on&#0160;his way out.<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">b. <em>One-Worldism<\/em>:&#0160; There is exactly one world and it is physical all the way down and all the way up.&#0160; Everything in it is physical through and through.&#0160; We are in it.&#0160; So all of our states, including our mental states, are material states of a material thing.&#0160; How do we know this?&#0160; We know it because Science tells us so. (in truth, it tells us no such thing, but play along.) <\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">c. <em>Therefore<\/em>:&#0160; Mental states are brain states.&#0160; What else could they be? Spook states? They exist by (a) and given (b) they cannot be identified as anything other than states of a material thing.&#0160; This argument is not compelling but it does render the materialism under discussion somewhat &#39;reasonable.&#39;&#0160; <\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">4.&#0160; The line of argument just sketched, however, collides with a principle than which no more luminous can be conceived, to wit, the Indiscernibility of Identicals.&#0160; <em>InId<\/em>, roughly, states that if two things are identical, then whatever is true of one is true of the other and vice versa.&#0160; Not surprising: if&#0160; the antecedent is satisfied, there is really only one thing.&#0160; So if a particular mental state is identical to a particular brain state, then everything true of the first must be true of the second, and vice versa.&#0160; But while some mental states are intentional, no physical states are.&#0160; So no mental state featuring intentionality can be a physical state.&#0160; And while some mental states have a qualitative feel about them, a Nagelian what-it-is-like, no physical states do.&#0160; So no non-intentional mental state is identical to a brain state.&#0160; These arguments can be spelled out and objections can be answered.&#0160; The arguments are very simple but very powerful.<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">5.&#0160; Now suppose we have a materialist who, convinced by the considerations in #4, refuses to abandon either &#0160;his materialism or his anti-eliminativism. &#0160;It is open to him to make the mysterian move along the following lines. He knows or thinks he knows from Science that mental functioning cannot be anything other than brain functioning.&#0160; And yet he cannot understand how mental states could be identical to brain states.&#0160; He cannot understand how two things can be identical if they differ property-wise.&#0160; And yet they are identical in the case of mental and brain states.&#0160; So the mysterian concludes that the noncontradictory &#0160;truth of materialism appears contradictory to us, and must appear contradictory to us, because of our cognitive limitations.&#0160; We don&#39;t understand how it could be true, and it must appear impossible to us given our cognitive limitations, but it is true all the same.&#0160; It is in that sense a mystery that we must accept with &#39;natural piety.&#39;<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">6.&#0160; Now I don&#39;t believe that Science &#8212; the capitalization is ironic &#8211;&#0160; can reveal truths to us that must appear contradictory to us:&#0160; I take the materialist position sketched above to be decisively refuted by the considerations in #4.&#0160; &#0160; But if mysterianism were a legitimate approach to such theological mysteries as Trinity and Incarnation, if it were a legitimate way to justify or defend these doctrines, then it would also be a legitimate way to justify or defend materialism about the mind.&#0160; Now materialism and theism are arguably incompatible. (This needs arguing but I can&#39;t argue it here; I do so elsewhere: &quot;Could a Classical Theist be a Physicalist?&quot; <em>Faith and Philosophy<\/em>, April 1998.)&#0160; So it looks as if&#0160; appeal to mysterianism can be used to defend incompatible doctrines.&#0160;This &#0160;suggests that&#0160;mysterianism is not effective for defending&#0160;either theological claims or materialist claims.&#0160;<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\"><\/font>&#0160;<\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">&#0160;<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\"><\/font>&#0160;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I wonder whether mysterianism in defense of such theological doctrines as the Trinity does not in the end backfire by making possible the philosophical justification of philosophical theses incompatible with it.&#0160; To ease our way into this line of inquiry, let us consider materialist mysterianism.&#0160; 1.&#0160; If mysterianism&#0160;is an acceptable approach in theology, why can&#39;t &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2010\/02\/09\/materialist-mysterianism\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Materialist Mysterianism&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[54,292,288],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-11847","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-mind","category-mysterianism","category-trinity-and-incarnation"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11847","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=11847"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11847\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=11847"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=11847"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=11847"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}