{"id":11602,"date":"2010-05-16T17:29:07","date_gmt":"2010-05-16T17:29:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2010\/05\/16\/on-the-abstractness-of-mathematical-sets\/"},"modified":"2010-05-16T17:29:07","modified_gmt":"2010-05-16T17:29:07","slug":"on-the-abstractness-of-mathematical-sets","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2010\/05\/16\/on-the-abstractness-of-mathematical-sets\/","title":{"rendered":"On the Abstractness of Mathematical Sets"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">Let us agree that x is concrete iff x is causally\/active passive and abstract otherwise.&#0160; Many say that mathematical sets (&#39;sets&#39; hereafter: &#39;mathematical&#39; as opposed to &#39;commonsense&#39;) are abstract objects, abstract entities, abstracta.&#0160; Why?<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\"><strong>Argument One:<\/strong>&#0160; In set theory there are singleton sets, e.g. {Quine}.&#0160; Obviously, Quine is not identical to {Quine}.&#0160; The second is a set, the first is not.&#0160; Yet the difference cannot be the difference between two concreta.&#0160; Quine is a concretum.&#0160; Therefore, {Quine} is an abstractum.&#0160; This is of course meant generally: singletons are abstracta.&#0160; Now if&#0160;singletons are abstracta, then all sets are.&#0160; <\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\"><strong>Argument Two:<\/strong>&#0160; In set theory there is a null set.&#0160; It is not nothing, but something despite having no members.&#0160;Yet it cannot be a concrete something.&#0160; Therefore, it is an abstract something.&#0160; And if one set is abstract, all are.<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\"><strong>Contra Argument One:<\/strong>&#0160; A statue and the lump&#0160;of clay that constitute it are numerically distinct.&#0160; (For the one has properties the other doesn&#39;t have, e.g., the lump, but not the statue, can exist without having the form of a statue.)&#0160; And yet both are concrete, i.e., both are causally active\/passive.&#0160; If this is possible, why should it not also be possible that Quine and {Quine} both be concrete?&#0160; One could say that Quine and {Quine} occupy the same &#39;plime&#39; to borrow a term form D. C. Williams, the same place-time, in the way statue and lump do.<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\"><strong>Contra Argument Two:<\/strong>&#0160; Possibly, there is a concrete atomic entity. Being atomic, it has no parts.&#0160; So why should a set&#39;s having no members rule out its being concrete?<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">Are any of these arguments compelling?<\/font><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Let us agree that x is concrete iff x is causally\/active passive and abstract otherwise.&#0160; Many say that mathematical sets (&#39;sets&#39; hereafter: &#39;mathematical&#39; as opposed to &#39;commonsense&#39;) are abstract objects, abstract entities, abstracta.&#0160; Why? 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