{"id":11372,"date":"2010-08-24T16:31:41","date_gmt":"2010-08-24T16:31:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2010\/08\/24\/more-on-suicide-bomberhomicide-bomber\/"},"modified":"2010-08-24T16:31:41","modified_gmt":"2010-08-24T16:31:41","slug":"more-on-suicide-bomberhomicide-bomber","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2010\/08\/24\/more-on-suicide-bomberhomicide-bomber\/","title":{"rendered":"More on &#8216;Suicide Bomber&#8217;\/&#8217;Homicide Bomber&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">I have been&#0160;receiving&#0160;e-mail about <\/font><a href=\"http:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/maverick_philosopher\/2010\/08\/suicide-bomber-or-homicide-bomber.html\"><font face=\"Georgia\">my earlier post<\/font><\/a><font face=\"Georgia\"> on this topic.&#0160; Here is one letter:<\/font><\/p>\n<blockquote dir=\"ltr\">\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">I fear you may have been a little harsh on Bill Keller in your recent post about the virtues of calling suicide bombers &#39;homicide bombers&#39;. Whilst I accept the conceptual and definitional analysis of the terms, surely the simple point is that ANY bomber who kills other humans is a homicide bomber, but it is only the suicide bomber who kills himself\/herself and other humans. The term &#39;suicide bomber&#39;, in my opinion, is perfectly apt as it emphasises that this individual was prepared to kill himself\/herself in the pursuit of killing others (rather than planting a bomb and detonating it remotely, for example). It may not be conceptually neat, but it&#39;s a worthy distinction to make, and one that is obscured by the term &#39;homicide bomber&#39;.<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">Since the point I have just made is so simple and luminous, it is reasonable to conjecture that you were blinded to its alethic luminosity by your right-wing bias, a bias that is reinforced on a quotidian basis by the crowd you run with.<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">I really enjoy reading the blog.<\/font><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">Very clever.&#0160; I see your point, but let&#39;s think about it a bit more.&#0160; There are three cases: (1) the bomber who kills himself while killing others; (2) the bomber who kills himself without killing others; (3) the bomber who kills others without killing himself.&#0160; In all three cases the bomber is a homicide bomber.&#0160; In the first two cases, the bomber is a suicide bomber.&#0160; Because &#39;suicide bomber&#39; applies in both the first and the second cases, the term &#39;suicide bomber&#39; does not distinguish between them.&#0160; To that extent &#39;suicide bomber&#39; is not sufficiently precise.&#0160; <\/font><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">You write, &quot;. . . it is only the suicide bomber who kills himself\/herself and other humans.&quot;&#0160; Not so: you are ignoring case (2).&#0160; Case (2) splits into two subcases: (2a) the bomber intends to blow only himself up and succeeds; (2b) the bomber intends to blow himself and others up, but succeeds only in blowing himself up.<\/font><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">Consider an example.&#0160; A Palestinian Arab walks into a Tel Aviv pizza parlor and detonates his explosive belt killing himself and 100 Israelis.&#0160; It would be misleading to say that this man has committed suicide even though he assuredly has, given that suicide is the intentional taking of one&#39;s own life.&#0160;It is misleading&#0160;because he hasn&#39;t merely killed himself, he has killed himself in order to commit mass murder.<\/font><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">As a conservative, I detect left-wing bias in the use of &#39;suicide bomber&#39; in a case like this.&#0160; It is biased because it plays down the element of mass murder of others.&#0160;It puts the emphasis on the poor terrorist &#8212; a product of oppressive circumstances we will be told &#8212; instead of where it belongs, on the slaughter of civilians.&#0160; So from my conservative point of view, &#39;homicide bomber&#39; seems more apt.&#0160; This is reinforced by the linguistic fact that when one hears &#39;suicide&#39; one does not usually think of homicide even though suicide is a form of homicide.&#0160; The word &#39;homicide&#39; in ordinary English carries the connotation of the killing of others.&#0160; If a man commits suicide we typically do not say that he committed homicide, and if a man commits homicide we do not normally think of the case in which he commits homicide by committing suicide.<\/font><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><font face=\"Georgia\">I will concede to you, though, that since &#39;homicide bomber&#39; covers all three cases, it fails to convey the notion that the terrorist killed himself in order to kill others.&#0160; So we may have a stand-off here: neither of us can compellingly show that the other&#39;s usage is incorrect or to avoided.<\/font><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I have been&#0160;receiving&#0160;e-mail about my earlier post on this topic.&#0160; Here is one letter: I fear you may have been a little harsh on Bill Keller in your recent post about the virtues of calling suicide bombers &#39;homicide bombers&#39;. Whilst I accept the conceptual and definitional analysis of the terms, surely the simple point is &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2010\/08\/24\/more-on-suicide-bomberhomicide-bomber\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;More on &#8216;Suicide Bomber&#8217;\/&#8217;Homicide Bomber&#8217;&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6,163],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-11372","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-language-matters","category-leftism-and-political-correctness"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11372","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=11372"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11372\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=11372"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=11372"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=11372"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}