{"id":11159,"date":"2010-11-02T16:04:03","date_gmt":"2010-11-02T16:04:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2010\/11\/02\/a-modal-ontological-argument-and-an-argument-from-evil-compared\/"},"modified":"2010-11-02T16:04:03","modified_gmt":"2010-11-02T16:04:03","slug":"a-modal-ontological-argument-and-an-argument-from-evil-compared","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2010\/11\/02\/a-modal-ontological-argument-and-an-argument-from-evil-compared\/","title":{"rendered":"A Modal Ontological Argument and an Argument from Evil Compared"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">After leaving the polling place this morning, I headed out&#0160;on a sunrise hike over the local hills whereupon the muse of philosophy bestowed upon me some good thoughts.&#0160;&#0160;Suppose we compare a modal ontological argument with an argument from evil in respect of the question of evidential support for the key premise in each.&#0160; This post continues <a href=\"http:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/maverick_philosopher\/2010\/10\/god-possibility-and-evidential-support-for-non-contingent-propositions.html\" target=\"_self\">our ruminations<\/a> on the topic of contingent support for noncontingent propositions.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\"><strong>A Modal Ontological Argument<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#39;GCB&#39; will abbreviate &#39;greatest conceivable being,&#39; which is a rendering of Anselm of Canterbury&#39;s &quot;that than which no greater can be conceived.&quot;&#0160; &#39;World&#39; abbreviates &#39;broadly logically possible world.&#39;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">1. The concept of the GCB is either&#0160;instantiated in every&#0160; world or it is instantiated&#0160;in no world.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">2. The concept of the GCB is instantiated in some world.&#0160; Therefore:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">3. The concept of the GCB is instantiated.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">This is a valid argument: it is correct in point of logical form.&#0160;&#0160;Nor does it commit any informal fallacy such as <em>petitio principii<\/em>, as I argue in <em>Religious Studies <\/em>29 (1993), pp. 97-110.&#0160; Note also that this version of the OA does not require the controversial assumption that existence is a first-level property, an assumption that Frege famously rejects and that many read back (with some justification) into Kant.&#0160; (Frege held that the OA falls with that assumption; he was wrong: the above version is immune to the Kant-Frege objection.)<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">(1) expresses what I will call <em>Anselm&#39;s Insight<\/em>.&#0160; He appreciated, presumably for the first time in the history of thought, that a divine being, one worthy of worship, must be noncontingent, i.e., either necessary or impossible.&#0160; I consider (1) nonnegotiable.&#0160; If your god is contingent, then your god is not God. There is no god but God.&#0160; End of discussion.&#0160; It is premise (2) &#8212; the key premise &#8212; that ought to raise eyebrows.&#0160; What it&#0160;says &#8212; translating out of the patois of possible worlds &#8212; is that it it possible that the GCB exists.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Whereas conceptual analysis of &#39;greatest conceivable being&#39; suffices in support of (1), how do we support (2)?&#0160; Why should we accept it?&#0160; Some will say that the conceivability of the GCB entails its possibility.&#0160; But I deny that conceivability entails possibility.&#0160; I won&#39;t argue that now, though I do say something about conceivability <a href=\"http:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/maverick_philosopher\/2010\/01\/coceivability-and-epistemic-possibility.html\" target=\"_self\">here<\/a>.&#0160; Suppose you grant me that conceivability does not entail BL-possibility.&#0160; You might retreat to this claim:&#0160; It may not entail it, but it is evidence for it:&#0160; the fact that we can conceive of a state of affairs S is defeasible evidence of S&#39;s possibility.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Please note that <em>Possibly the GCB exists <\/em>&#8212; which is logically equivalent to (2) &#8212; is necessarily true if true.&#0160; This is a consequence of the characteristic S5 axiom of modal propositional logic:&#0160;<em> Poss p &#8211;&gt; Nec Poss p<\/em>.&#0160;(&#39;Characteristic&#39; in the sense that it&#0160; is what distinguishes S5 from S4 which is included in S5.)&#0160; So if the only support for (2) is probabilistic or evidential, then we have the puzzle we encountered earlier: how can there be probabilistic support for a noncontingent proposition?&#0160; But now the same problem arises on the atheist side.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\"><strong>An Argument From Evil<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">4. If the concept of the GCB is instantiated, then there are no gratuitous evils.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">5. There are some gratuitous evils. Therefore:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">6. The concept of the GCB is not instantiated.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">This too is a deductive argument, and it is valid.&#0160; It falls afoul of no informal fallacy.&#0160; (4), like (1), is nonnegotiable.&#0160; Deny it, and I show you the door.&#0160; The key premise, then, the one on which the soundness of the argument rides, is (5).&#0160; (5) is not obviously true.&#0160; Even if it is obviously true that there are evils, it is not obviously true that there are <em>gratuitous <\/em>evils.&#0160; <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">In fact, one might argue that the argument begs the question against the theist at line (5).&#0160; For if there are any <em>gratuitous<\/em> evils, then by definition of &#39;gratuitous&#39; God cannot exist.&#0160; But I won&#39;t push this in light of the fact that in print I have resisted the claim that the modal OA begs the question at <em>its<\/em> key premise, (2) above.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">So how do we know that (5) is true?&#0160; Not by conceptual analysis.&#0160;If we assume, uncontroversially, that there are some evils, then the following logical equivalence holds:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">7. Necessarily, there are some gratuitous evils iff the GCB does not exist.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Left-to-right is obvious: if there are gratuitous evils, ones for which there is no justification, then a being having the standard omni-attributes cannot exist.&#0160; Right-to-left:&#0160; if there is no GCB and there are some evils, then there are some gratuitous evils.&#0160; (On second thought, R-to-L may not hold, but I don&#39;t need it anyway.)<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Now the RHS, if true, is necessarily true, which implies that the LHS &#8212; There are some gratuitious evils &#8212; is necessarily true if true.&#0160; <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Can we argue for the LHS =(5)?&#0160; Perhaps one could argue like this (as one commenter suggested in an earlier thread):&#0160; If the evils are nongratuitous, then probably we would have conceived of justifying reasons for them.&#0160; But we cannot conceive of justifying reasons.&#0160; Therefore, probably there are gratuitous evils.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">But now we face our old puzzle: How can the probability of there being gratuitous evils show that there are gratuitous evils given that <em>There are gratuitous evils<\/em>, if true, is necessarily true?<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\"><strong>Conclusion<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">We face the same problem with both arguments, the modal OA for the existence of the GCB, and the argument from evil for the nonexistence of the GCB.&#0160; The key premises in both arguments &#8212; (2) and (5) &#8212; are necessarily true if true.&#0160; The only support for them is evidential from contingent facts.&#0160; But then we are back with our old puzzle:&#0160; How can contingent evidence support noncontingent propositions?&#0160; <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Neither argument is probative and they appear to cancel each other out.&#0160; Sextus Empiricus would be proud of me.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>After leaving the polling place this morning, I headed out&#0160;on a sunrise hike over the local hills whereupon the muse of philosophy bestowed upon me some good thoughts.&#0160;&#0160;Suppose we compare a modal ontological argument with an argument from evil in respect of the question of evidential support for the key premise in each.&#0160; This post &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2010\/11\/02\/a-modal-ontological-argument-and-an-argument-from-evil-compared\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;A Modal Ontological Argument and an Argument from Evil Compared&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[21,191,371,143,50,235],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-11159","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-aporetics","category-atheism-and-theism","category-conceivability","category-god","category-good-and-evil","category-modal-matters"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11159","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=11159"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11159\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=11159"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=11159"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=11159"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}