{"id":10878,"date":"2011-03-02T06:03:12","date_gmt":"2011-03-02T06:03:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2011\/03\/02\/boethius-contra-nietzsche-on-time-and-transition\/"},"modified":"2011-03-02T06:03:12","modified_gmt":"2011-03-02T06:03:12","slug":"boethius-contra-nietzsche-on-time-and-transition","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2011\/03\/02\/boethius-contra-nietzsche-on-time-and-transition\/","title":{"rendered":"Boethius Contra Nietzsche on Time and Transition"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Like Nietzsche, &quot;I am grieved by the transitoriness of things.&quot;&#0160; (Letter to Franz Overbeck, 24 March 1887, quoted in R. Hayman,&#0160; <em>Nietzsche: A Critical Life<\/em>, Penguin, 1982, p. 304) Unlike Nietzsche, I<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">appreciate that the Eternal Recurrence of the Same is no solution. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/.a\/6a010535ce1cf6970c014e867086db970d-pi\" style=\"float: left;\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Boethius\" class=\"asset  asset-image at-xid-6a010535ce1cf6970c014e867086db970d\" src=\"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/.a\/6a010535ce1cf6970c014e867086db970d-500wi\" style=\"margin: 0px 5px 5px 0px;\" title=\"Boethius\" \/><\/a> The problem with time is not that it will end, but that its very mode of being is deficient. The problem is not that our time is short, but&#0160;&#0160; that we are in time in the first place. For this reason, more time is no solution. Not even endlessly recurring time is any solution. Even if time were unending and I were omnitemporal, existing at every time, my life would still be strung out in moments outside of each other, with the diachronic identifications of memory and expectation no substitute for a true unity. To the moment I say, <em>Verweile doch, du bist so sch\u00f6n <\/em>(Goethe, <em>Faust<\/em>) but the beautiful moment will not abide, and abidance-in-memory is a sorry substitute, and a self diachronically constituted by such makeshifts is arguably no true self. Existing as we do temporally, we are never at one with ourselves: the past is no longer, the future not yet, and the present fleeting. We exist outside ourselves in temporal <em>ec-stasis<\/em>. We are strung out in temporal diaspora. The only Now we know is the <em>nunc movens<\/em>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">But we sense and can conceive a <em>nunc stans<\/em>, a standing now. This conception of a standing now, empty except for the rare and partial mystic fulfillment, is the standard relative to which the moving now is judged ontologically deficient. Time is but a moving and inadequate image of eternity.&#0160; So we of the tribe of Plato conceive of the divine life as the eternal life, not as the omnitemporal or everlasting life. Our spokesman is Boethius, inspired by Philosophia herself:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; Eternity is the simultaneous and complete possession of infinite<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; life. This will appear more clearly if we compare it with temporal<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; things. All that lives under the conditions of time moves through<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; the present from the past to the future; there is nothing set in<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; time which can at one moment grasp the whole space of its lifetime.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; It cannot yet comprehend tomorrow; yesterday it has already lost.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; And in this life of today your life is no more than a changing,<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; passing moment. And as Aristotle said of the universe, so it is of<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; all that is subject to time; though it never began to be, nor will<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; ever cease, and its life is coextensive with the infinity of time,<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; yet it is not such as can be held to be eternal. For though it<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; apprehends and grasps a space of infinite lifetime, it does not<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; embrace the whole simultaneously; it has not yet experienced the<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; future. What we should rightly call eternal is that which grasps<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; and possesses wholly and simultaneously the fullness of unending<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; life, which lacks naught of the future, and has lost naught of the<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; fleeting past; and such an existence must be ever present in itself<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; to control and aid itself, and also must keep present with itself<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; the infinity of changing time. (<em>The Consolation of Philosophy<\/em>, Book<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; V; the Latin below the fold)<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; Aeternitas igitur est interminabilis uitae tota simul et perfecta<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; possessio. Quod ex collatione temporalium clarius liquet. 5 Nam<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; quicquid uiuit in tempore id praesens a praeteritis in futura<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; procedit nihilque est in tempore constitutum quod totum uitae suae<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; spatium pariter possit amplecti, sed crastinum quidem nondum<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; apprehendit hesternum uero iam perdidit; in hodierna quoque uita<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; non amplius uiuitis quam in illo mobili transitorioque momento. 6<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; Quod igitur temporis patitur condicionem, licet illud, sicuti de<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; mundo censuit Aristoteles, nec coeperit umquam esse nec desinat<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; uitaque eius cum temporis infinitate tendatur, nondum tamen tale<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; est ut aeternum esse iure credatur. 7 Non enim totum simul<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; infinitae licet uitae spatium comprehendit atque complectitur, sed<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; futura nondum, transacta iam non habet. 8 Quod igitur<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; interminabilis uitae plenitudinem totam pariter comprehendit ac<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; possidet, cui neque futuri quicquam absit nec praeteriti fluxerit,<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; id aeternum esse iure perhibetur idque necesse est et sui compos<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; praesens sibi semper assistere et infinitatem mobilis temporis<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; habere praesentem.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Like Nietzsche, &quot;I am grieved by the transitoriness of things.&quot;&#0160; (Letter to Franz Overbeck, 24 March 1887, quoted in R. Hayman,&#0160; Nietzsche: A Critical Life, Penguin, 1982, p. 304) Unlike Nietzsche, Iappreciate that the Eternal Recurrence of the Same is no solution. 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