{"id":10717,"date":"2011-05-05T12:15:51","date_gmt":"2011-05-05T12:15:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2011\/05\/05\/still-more-on-the-morality-of-celebrating-the-death-of-evildoers\/"},"modified":"2011-05-05T12:15:51","modified_gmt":"2011-05-05T12:15:51","slug":"still-more-on-the-morality-of-celebrating-the-death-of-evildoers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2011\/05\/05\/still-more-on-the-morality-of-celebrating-the-death-of-evildoers\/","title":{"rendered":"Still More on the Morality of Celebrating the Death of Evildoers"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">It is not just some Christians who feel the moral&#0160;&#0160;dubiousness of joy and celebration at the death of evildoers.&#0160; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.frumforum.com\/is-it-wrong-to-feel-joy-at-bin-ladens-death%3E\" target=\"_self\">Here<\/a> is Rabbi Shmuel Herzfeld.&#0160; &quot;So our tradition is clear: Public rejoicing about the death of an enemy is entirely inappropriate.&quot;&#0160; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.chabad.org\/library\/article_cdo\/aid\/1507393\/jewish\/Is-It-Okay-to-Celebrate-Bin-Ladens-Death.htm%3E\" target=\"_self\">Here<\/a> is a delightfully equivocal statement by Rabbi Tzvi Freeman.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Interestingly, Dennis Prager is still pounding on this theme.&#0160; About twenty minutes ago I heard him repeat his argument <a href=\"http:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/maverick_philosopher\/2011\/05\/on-joy-at-osamas-demise-dennis-prager-responds-to-me-on-the-air.html\" target=\"_self\">against me<\/a> and others.&#0160; The argument could be put like this:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">1. The&#0160;Israelites rejoiced when the Red Sea closed around the Egyptians, drowning them. &#0160;(Exodus 15)<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">2.&#0160;&#0160;This rejoicing was&#0160; pleasing to God.&#0160;<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Therefore<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">3.&#0160; &#0160;To rejoice over the death of evildoers is morally permissible.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">This argument is only as good as its second premise.&#0160; Two questions.&#0160; First, <em>does<\/em> the Bible depict God as being pleased at the rejoicing?&#0160; Not unequivocally.&#0160; Prager could argue from <em>Ex<\/em> 15: 22-25 that God was indeed pleased because he showed Moses a tree with which he rendered the bitter waters of Marah sweet and potable.&#0160; The Israelites were mighty thirsty&#0160; after three days of traipsing around in the wilderness of Shur after emerging from the Red Sea.&#0160; Unfortunately, Prager provided no support for (2).<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">But more important is the second question. Why should we take the fact that God is <em>depicted<\/em> as being pleased at the rejoicing &#8212; if it is a fact &#8212; as evidence that God <em>is<\/em> pleased?&#0160; I grant that if God is pleased at some behavior then that behavior is morally acceptable.&#0160; But the fact that God is <em>depicted<\/em> as being pleased does not entail that God <em>is<\/em> pleased.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">And so, as a philosopher, I cannot credit the (1)-(3) argument.&#0160; It assumes that the Bible is the inerrant word of God.&#0160; But this is not to be assumed; this is to be tested.&#0160; The Bible has to satisfy reason&#39;s criteria before it can be accepted as true.&#0160;If the Bible violates the deliverances of practical reason (as it quite clearly does in the Abraham and Isaac story, see my <a href=\"http:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/maverick_philosopher\/2009\/08\/kant-on-abraham-and-isaac.html\" target=\"_self\">Kant on Abraham and Isaac<\/a>)&#0160; then it cannot be accepted in those passages in which the violation occurs as the word of God.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">We who have one foot in Athens and the other in Jerusalem face the problem of how we can avoid being torn asunder.&#0160;&#0160;On the one hand, philosophy can bring us to the realization&#0160; that we need revelation; on the other hand,&#0160;nothing can count as genuine revelation unless it passes muster by reason&#39;s own theoretical and practical lights.&#0160; This is not to demand that the content of revelation be derivable from reason; it is to demand that nothing that purports to be revelation can be&#0160;credited as genuine revelation&#0160;if it violates the clearest principles of theoretical and practical reason, for example, the Law of Non-Contradiction and the principles that one may not kill the innocent or rejoice over another man&#39;s evil fate.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">The problem is to reconcile divine authority&#0160; with human reason and autonomy.&#0160; Two nonsolutions may be immediately dismissed: &#0160;fideism which denigrates reason, and rationalism which denigrates faith.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It is not just some Christians who feel the moral&#0160;&#0160;dubiousness of joy and celebration at the death of evildoers.&#0160; Here is Rabbi Shmuel Herzfeld.&#0160; &quot;So our tradition is clear: Public rejoicing about the death of an enemy is entirely inappropriate.&quot;&#0160; Here is a delightfully equivocal statement by Rabbi Tzvi Freeman. Interestingly, Dennis Prager is still &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2011\/05\/05\/still-more-on-the-morality-of-celebrating-the-death-of-evildoers\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Still More on the Morality of Celebrating the Death of Evildoers&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[331,60,574,139],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-10717","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-athens-and-jerusalem","category-ethics","category-old-testament","category-religion"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10717","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=10717"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10717\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=10717"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=10717"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=10717"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}