{"id":10084,"date":"2011-12-13T14:31:09","date_gmt":"2011-12-13T14:31:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2011\/12\/13\/moksha\/"},"modified":"2011-12-13T14:31:09","modified_gmt":"2011-12-13T14:31:09","slug":"moksha","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2011\/12\/13\/moksha\/","title":{"rendered":"<i>Moksha<\/i>: Soteriological Riddles"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Over lunch&#0160;Friday the topic of <em>moksha<\/em> (release or liberation from samsara; enlightenment) came up&#0160;in the context of Advaita Vedanta.&#0160; Moksha is attained when the identity of Atman and Brahman is realized.&#0160; My interlocutor wanted to know how such realization is possible.&#0160; If I&#0160;realize my identity with the Absolute, then I cease to exist as something separate from the Absolute.&#0160; In that case, however, there is nothing left to realize anything.&#0160; How could the state of enlightenment be anything for me if there is no &#39;me&#39; left after enlightenment?&#0160; How is moksha different from deep dreamless sleep or from utter nonexistence?&#0160; A form of salvation that amounts to personal annihilation seems not to be a salvation worth wanting.&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Any soteriology worth its salt must answer three questions:&#0160; Salvation of what? To what?&#0160; From what?&#0160; Brahman does not need salvation.&#0160; It is this indigent samsaric entity that I take myself to be that needs salvation.&#0160; But if what is saved is destroyed in being saved, by being merged into Brahman, then it is at best paradoxical to call this salvation.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Ramanuja is supposed to have said to Shankara, &quot;I don&#39;t want to <em>be<\/em> sugar; I want to <em>taste<\/em> sugar.&quot;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">If I were taking Shankara&#39;s side of the argument, I might say something like&#0160;the following to Ramanuja and my friend:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">If I am right and you really are sugar\/Brahman in your innermost essence, and you merely taste it, then you are removed from it and haven&#39;t yet attained the goal.&#0160; It is just one more object over against you as subject. Your inquiry into the self, into who or what you really are,&#0160;has not yet come to an end. The goal is to realize or become aware of your true self.&#0160; To do that you must ruthlessly disengage from everything &#0160;that is not-self.&#0160; If Brahman is your true self, and you realize your identity with it, then you haven&#39;t lost your self, but found your self.&#0160; You cannot be said to dissolve into the ocean of Brahman if Brahman is the true you.&#0160; To think that you you lose your self when you merge with Brahman presupposes a false identification of the self with something finite.&#0160; The self you lose is merely an object that you have wrongly identified as your true self; the self you gain is your true self.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">This response is not quite satisfactory.&#0160; Consider the following aporetic triad:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">1. Brahman does not&#0160;need salvation.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">2. I am Brahman.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">3. My need for salvation is a real (not merely a samsaric, illusory) need.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">The first two limbs are parts of the doctrine (Advaita Vedanta)&#0160;that is the context of our&#0160;soteriological discussion.&#0160; So they are nonnegotiable unless we shift out of this context.&#0160;&#0160;But (3) also seems true.&#0160; The three propositions cannot, however, all be true: the conjunction of the first two limbs entails the negation of the third.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">So it looks as if the advaitin has to bite&#0160;the bullet and reject (3).&#0160; He has to say something like:&#0160; the very need for release from this hell of an existence&#0160;itself belongs to maya, the realm of illusion.&#0160; So both the need for moksha and&#0160;the one who seeks it &#0160;are illusory.&#0160;&#0160; But this seems to conflict with the starting point of this whole soteriological scheme, namely, that the suffering and unsatisfactoriness of this life&#0160;are &#0160;real.&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Here is another puzzle.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Using the method of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.yogaworld.org\/jnana2.htm\" target=\"_self\">Neti, Neti<\/a> (not this, not this),&#0160; we end up with the result that the subject who is seeking is no object, no thing, nothing. Pursuing the question: Who or what am I? I come to the insight that I cannot be identical to any object, whether my car, my house, my clothes, my <em>curriculum vitae<\/em>, my body, any part of my body, my memories, thoughts, feelings, etc.&#0160; Any and all objects &#8212; inner, outer, concrete, abstract &#8212; &#0160;are&#0160;to be disengaged from the subject for whom they are objects.&#0160;The upshot seems to be that any self or subject so disengaged from every object is nothing at all.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">On the other hand, I cannot be nothing at all since I am pursuing this investigation. Coming to realize that I am not this, that, or the other thing, I must be something, not nothing. So we bang into a logical contradiction: I am nothing and I am not nothing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">As long as we remain on the discursive\/dualistic plane we will get tangled up like this. So one could take these insolubilia as pointing us beyond the discursive intellect.&#0160; This is what I suggested to my friend.&#0160; I want him to take up meditation so as to explore the non-dual source of duality.&#0160; But meditation is insanely hard, and the fruits are few and far between.&#0160; It can seem like an utter waste of time.&#0160; Pointless navel-gazing!&#0160; (But see my <a href=\"http:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/maverick_philosopher\/2009\/08\/contra-adorno-a-preliminary-plea-for-omphaloscopy.html\" target=\"_self\">plea for omphaloscopy<\/a>&#0160;.)<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">Besides, one can take the insolubilia &#8212; if insolubilia they are &#8212; as referring us, not into the transdiscursive, but back into Plato&#39;s Cave, in particular, into that especially dark corner wherein the Wittgensteinian therapists ply their trade.<\/span><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Over lunch&#0160;Friday the topic of moksha (release or liberation from samsara; enlightenment) came up&#0160;in the context of Advaita Vedanta.&#0160; Moksha is attained when the identity of Atman and Brahman is realized.&#0160; My interlocutor wanted to know how such realization is possible.&#0160; If I&#0160;realize my identity with the Absolute, then I cease to exist as something &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2011\/12\/13\/moksha\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;<i>Moksha<\/i>: Soteriological Riddles&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[21,728,41,543,106],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-10084","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-aporetics","category-hinduism","category-mysticism","category-soteriology","category-spiritual-exercises"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10084","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=10084"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10084\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=10084"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=10084"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=10084"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}