{"id":10016,"date":"2012-01-11T13:25:01","date_gmt":"2012-01-11T13:25:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2012\/01\/11\/where-the-conflict-really-lies-science-religion-and-naturalism-notes-on-the-preface\/"},"modified":"2012-01-11T13:25:01","modified_gmt":"2012-01-11T13:25:01","slug":"where-the-conflict-really-lies-science-religion-and-naturalism-notes-on-the-preface","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/maverickphilosopher.blog\/index.php\/2012\/01\/11\/where-the-conflict-really-lies-science-religion-and-naturalism-notes-on-the-preface\/","title":{"rendered":"<i>Where the Conflict Really Lies: Science, Religion, and Naturalism<\/i>: Notes on the Preface"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">I now have <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Where-Conflict-Really-Lies-Naturalism\/dp\/0199812098\" target=\"_self\">Alvin Plantinga&#39;s new book<\/a> in my hands.&#0160; Here are some notes on the preface.&#0160; Since I agree with almost everything in the preface, the following batch of notes will be interpretive but not critical.&#0160; Words and phrases&#0160; enclosed in double quotation marks are Plantinga&#39;s <em>ipsissima verba<\/em>.&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">1. Plantinga is concerned with the relations among monotheistic religion, natural science, and naturalism.&#0160; His main thesis is that there is &quot;superficial conflict but deep concord&quot; between natural science and monotheistic religion&#0160;but &#0160;&quot;superficial concord but deep conflict&quot; between science and naturalism.&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">2. The great monotheistic religions (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) affirm the existence of &quot;such a person as God.&quot;&#0160; Naturalism is a worldview that entails the nonexistence of such a person.&#0160; &quot;Naturalism is stronger than atheism.&quot; (p. ix) Naturalism entails atheism, but atheism does not entail naturalism.&#0160; One can be an atheist without being a naturalist.&#0160; John McTaggart Ellis McTaggart is an example. (My example, not Plantinga&#39;s.)&#0160; But one cannot be a naturalist without being an atheist.&#0160; This is perhaps obvious, which is why Plantinga doesn&#39;t explain it.&#0160; Roughly, a naturalist holds that the whole of reality (or perhaps only the whole of concrete reality) is exhausted by the space-time system and its contents.&#0160; No one who holds this can hold that there is such a person as God, God being a purely spiritual agent.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">To put it my own way, theistic religion and naturalism&#0160;could not both be true, but they could both be false.&#0160; This makes them logical contraries, not contradictories.&#0160; Their being the former suffices to put them in real conflict.&#0160; For many of us this is what the ultimate worldview choice comes down to.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">3. Plantinga rightly points out that while naturalism is not a religion, it is a worldview that is <em>like<\/em> a religion.&#0160; So it can be properly called a quasi-religion.&#0160; (p. x) This is because it plays many of the same roles that a religion plays.&#0160; It provides answers to the Big Questions: Does God exist? Can we survive our bodily deaths? How should we live?<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">I would add that there are religious worldviews and anti-religious worldviews, but that natural science is not a worldview.&#0160; Science is not in the business of supplying worldview needs: needs for meaning, purpose, guidance, norms and values.&#0160;Science cannot put religion out of business, as I argue<a href=\"http:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/maverick_philosopher\/2011\/10\/why-science-will-never-put-religion-out-of-business.html\" target=\"_self\"> here<\/a>, though&#0160; perhaps in some ways that Plantinga would not endorse.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">4. Given that naturalism is a quasi-religion, there is a sense in which there is a genuine science vs. religion conflict, namely, a conflict between science and the quasi-religion, naturalism.&#0160; Very clever!<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">5. Plantinga&#39;s claim that &quot;there is no serious conflict between science and religion&quot; puts him at odds with what I call &#0160;the Dawkins Gang and what Plantinga calls the Four Horsemen of the New Atheism: Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett,&#0160;Christopher Hitchens, and Sam Harris.&#0160; Plantinga, who never fails us when it comes to wit and style, suggests that the atheism of these four &quot;is adolescent rebellion carried on by other means&quot; (p. xi)&#0160; that doesn&#39;t rise to the level of the the old atheism of Bertrand Russell and John Mackie.&#0160; &quot;We may perhaps hope that the new atheism is but a temporary blemish on the face of serious conversation in this crucial area.&quot;&#0160; That is indeed the hope of all right-thinking and serious people, whether theists or atheists.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">6. Plantinga&#0160;fully appreciates&#0160;that modern natural science is a magnficent thing, &quot;the most striking and impressive intellectual phenomenon of the last&#0160;half millenium.&quot; (p. xi)&#0160; This has led some to the mistake of thinking that science is the ultimate court of appeal when&#0160;it comes to the fixation of belief.&#0160; But this can&#39;t be right for two reasons.&#0160; First, science gives us no help in the areas where we most need enlightenment: religion, politics, and morals, for example. (p. xii)&#0160; There are worldview needs, after all, and science cannot supply them.&#0160; &quot;Second, science contradicts itself, both over time and at the same time.&quot; (p. xii)&#0160; Indeed it does.&#0160; But no one, least of all Plantinga, &#0160;takes that as an argument against science as open-ended inquiry.&#0160; A question to ruminate on:&#0160; Should not religion also&#0160;be thought of as open-ended and subject to correction?<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">7.&#0160; I would say that if there is demonstrable conflict between a religious belief and&#0160;a well-established finding of current natural science, then the religious belief must give way.&#0160; Plantinga commits himself to something rather less ringing: if there were such a conflict, then &quot;initially, at least, it would cast doubt on those religious beliefs inconsistent with current science.&quot;(p. xii).&#0160; But he doesn&#39;t think there is any conflict between &quot;Christian belief and science, while there <em>is<\/em> conflict between naturalism and science.&quot;&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">8. One apparent conflict is between evolution and religion, another between miracles and science.&#0160; Plantinga will argue that these conflicts are <em>merely<\/em> apparent.&#0160; Theistic religion does not conflict with evolution but with a &quot;philosophical gloss or add-on to the&#0160;scientific theory of evolution: the claim that it is undirected . . . .&quot; (p. xii) As for miracles, Plantinga says he will show that they do not violate the causal closure of the physical domain and the various conservation laws that govern it. &quot;Any system in which a divine miracle occurs . . . would <em>not<\/em> be causally closed; hence such a system is not addressed by those laws.&quot; (p. xiii)&#0160; That sounds a bit fishy, but we shall have to see how Plantinga develops the argument.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">9. As for the &quot;deep concord&quot; between theistic thinking and science, it is rooted in the <em>imago Dei<\/em>.&#0160; If God has created us in his image, then he has created us with the power to understand ourselves and our world.&#0160; This implies that he he has created us and our world &quot;in such a way that there is a <em>match<\/em> between our cognitive powers and the world.&quot; (p. xiv)&#0160; I would put it like this: both the intelligibility of the world and our intelligence have a common ground in God.&#0160; This common ground or source secures both the objectivity of truth and the possibility of our knowing some of it, and thereby the possibility of successful science.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">10.&#0160; But when it comes to naturalism and science, there is &quot;deep and serious conflict.&quot;&#0160;&#0160;&#0160; Naturalism entails materialism about the human mind.&#0160; It entails that we are just complex physical systems.&#0160; If so, then&#0160;Plantinga will argue that &quot;it is improbable, given naturalism and evolution, that our cognitive faculties are reliable.&quot;&#0160; If&#0160;this can be shown, then the conjunction of naturalism and evolution is not rationally acceptable. &quot;Hence naturalism and evolution are in serious conflict: one can&#39;t rationally accept them both.&quot; (p. xiv)&#0160;<\/span><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&#0160;<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I now have Alvin Plantinga&#39;s new book in my hands.&#0160; Here are some notes on the preface.&#0160; Since I agree with almost everything in the preface, the following batch of notes will be interpretive but not critical.&#0160; Words and phrases&#0160; enclosed in double quotation marks are Plantinga&#39;s ipsissima verba.&#0160; 1. 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